KVS Tool and Emirates inconsistencies?

Old Jan 28, 12, 12:45 am
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KVS Tool and Emirates inconsistencies?

I am looking at a flight from CMB -> MLE on the 28th of this month (January). The KVS tool using Sabre reports:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.3/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
CMB  Colombo Metro LK = CMB RML
MLE  Male Intl MV [VRMM]
SAT  28 Jan 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
EK         653     CMB   21:35     MLE   22:35     773      F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
Yet, if I go to Emirates it shows F as being sold out. Expedia/Orbitz shows nothing. I called the Emirates "Gold Desk" and they told me that F is sold out as well. So, I was only able to book a J ticket.

Is it typical that KVS/Sabre disagree with Emirates?
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Old Jan 28, 12, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by whimike View Post
I am looking at a flight from CMB -> MLE on the 28th of this month (January). The KVS tool using Sabre reports:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.3/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
CMB  Colombo Metro LK = CMB RML
MLE  Male Intl MV [VRMM]
SAT  28 Jan 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
EK         653     CMB   21:35     MLE   22:35     773      F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
Yet, if I go to Emirates it shows F as being sold out. Expedia/Orbitz shows nothing. I called the Emirates "Gold Desk" and they told me that F is sold out as well. So, I was only able to book a J ticket.

Is it typical that KVS/Sabre disagree with Emirates?
2 problems here

1. EK changes availability based on point of sale. As far as I know, KVS shows point of sale from the USA. However, when buying a ticket from CMB, the flight probably shows F0 A0.

Now... the normal solution would be to go to expedia.com and buy the ticket there with a US point of sale and everyone would be happy. But...

2. The F class CMB-MLE ticket has a SITI restriction which means tickets can only be sold and ticketed in the origin country (i.e Sri Lanka.)



[Sales Restrictions]
SITI TRANSACTIONS PERMITTED. SOTO/SITO/SOTI
TRANSACTIONS NOT PERMITTED.
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Old Jan 28, 12, 11:49 am
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I've had particular difficulty with DXB-MLE-CMB... and presumably the same conditions exist in reverse. For example, when availability Europe-DXB-MLE (the DXB-MLE flight at 0300-ish) exists, DXB_MLE at 0940 does not. This is despite when searching for a one-way, both flights have good availability.

It makes sense... force European connecting pax onto the 0340 and preserve space on the 0940 for DXB-MLE O-D pax. It is however the first instance of selective availability based on itinerary/POS that I've seen on EK. However, it seems to work well for them - as part of an ex-Europe sale fare I booked a J seat (O class) and the flight I'm on is now showing J2 C2 I1 O0 while the later flight has better availability.
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Old Jan 28, 12, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by sadiqhassan View Post
2 problems here

1. EK changes availability based on point of sale. As far as I know, KVS shows point of sale from the USA. However, when buying a ticket from CMB, the flight probably shows F0 A0.

Now... the normal solution would be to go to expedia.com and buy the ticket there with a US point of sale and everyone would be happy. But...

2. The F class CMB-MLE ticket has a SITI restriction which means tickets can only be sold and ticketed in the origin country (i.e Sri Lanka.)



[Sales Restrictions]
SITI TRANSACTIONS PERMITTED. SOTO/SITO/SOTI
TRANSACTIONS NOT PERMITTED.
So, if the flight could be ticketed in the US then there are at least 2 F tickets available. Why, then, would there be 0 available in Sri Lanka? What is going on with the available seats if it were able to be booked from the US?

I am guessing this SITI restriction is also in J since you can't book J on Expedia either. Why would Emirates make this flight unable to be booked outside Sri Lanka in F or J?

More importantly, since the Male flight is likely predominantly booked by transit passengers, why would they put a SITI restriction on this flight? Or, is this flight mostly servicing Sri Lankan people?!
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Old Jan 28, 12, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by sadiqhassan View Post
2 problems here

1. EK changes availability based on point of sale. As far as I know, KVS shows point of sale from the USA. However, when buying a ticket from CMB, the flight probably shows F0 A0.

Now... the normal solution would be to go to expedia.com and buy the ticket there with a US point of sale and everyone would be happy. But...

2. The F class CMB-MLE ticket has a SITI restriction which means tickets can only be sold and ticketed in the origin country (i.e Sri Lanka.)

[Sales Restrictions]
SITI TRANSACTIONS PERMITTED. SOTO/SITO/SOTI
TRANSACTIONS NOT PERMITTED.
Indeed, this is a POS issue:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

KVS Tool actually has 2 Availability POS options (US & JP), and if the OP had used the JP option, it would also have shown F0 A0.
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Old Jan 28, 12, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by whimike View Post
More importantly, since the Male flight is likely predominantly booked by transit passengers, why would they put a SITI restriction on this flight?
The SITI restriction applies to the Fare, not the Flight, so it would not affect the transit PAX:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.3/Diamond - Sabre: NYC-MLE/EK/FRTUS1/20360 USD]
Code:
[Sales Restrictions]
NO SALES RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
NORMAL ECONOMY/FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS RESTRICTED FARES
FROM
US TO AREA 2/3
APPLICATION
 AREA
  THESE FARES APPLY
   FROM UNITED STATES
   TO AREA 2/AREA 3.
 CLASS OF SERVICE
  THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
   SERVICE.
 TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
  THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
  FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
   ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
   CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
   THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
   AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
   WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
   FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
   JUDGEMENT.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        US FLIGHTS 4800 THROUGH 9999
        EK FLIGHTS 6200 THROUGH 6203
        EK FLIGHTS 6220 THROUGH 6221
        AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 8399
        AS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
        AS FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3274
        AS FLIGHTS 3300 THROUGH 9999
        SA FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7699
        BA FLIGHTS 6200 THROUGH 6449
        DL FLIGHTS 6800 THROUGH 6999
        DL FLIGHTS 7400 THROUGH 9999
        B6 FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
        F9 FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5399
        UA FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 0199
        UA FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 3249
        UA FLIGHTS 3925 THROUGH 5649
        UA FLIGHTS 7105 THROUGH 9814
        UA FLIGHTS 9835 THROUGH 9999
        UA FLIGHTS 5650 THROUGH 7924 OPERATED BY OO.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY UA FLIGHT
        ANY US FLIGHT
        ANY AS FLIGHT
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY EV
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY XJ
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9E
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY S5
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY RP
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY CP
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY F8
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY OH
        ANY AA FLIGHT
        ANY VX FLIGHT OPERATED BY VX
        ANY B6 FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6
        ANY F9 FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN UNITED
STATES AND CANADA
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY UA FLIGHT
        ANY CO FLIGHT
        ANY AS FLIGHT
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY OO
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY EV
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY XJ
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9E
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY S5
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY RP
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY CP
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY F8
        ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY OH.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN AREA 1
AND DXB ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN DXB AND
AREA 2
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK
        ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY WY
        ANY FZ FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN DXB AND
AREA 3
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK
        ANY 4Q FLIGHT
        ANY FZ FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 3
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       RESERVATIONS AND TICKETING MUST BE MADE BY
       AUTHORIZED BOOKING/TICKETING AGENT OR WILL BE
       CANCELLED. PASSENGERS TELEPHONE NUMBER MUST BE
       INCLUDED IN PNR. FOR ALL PASSENGERS TRAVELING TO
       AUSTRALIA -PNR MUST CONTAIN APIS-
       ADVANCED PASSENGER INFORMATION SYSTEM INFORMATION.
       THE APPLICABLE FARE BASIS SHOWN IN THE FARE TABLE
       MUST BE SHOWN IN THE FARE BASIS COLOUMN.
       USE OF REVALIDATION STICKERS NOT PERMITTED.
       MUST SHOW THROUGH FARES ON TICKET NO SECTOR FARE
       COMBINATIONS PERMITTED OR SUBJECT TO DEBIT OF FULL
       TICKETED FARE.
       --------------------------------------------------

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING
UNIT.

[Transfers]
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT BETWEEN MALAYSIA AND JAPAN / DEMOCRATIC
REPUBLIC OF KOREA / REPUBLIC OF KOREA BETWEEN
SINGAPORE AND JAPAN / DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF KOREA /
REPUBLIC OF KOREA BETWEEN THAILAND AND JAPAN /
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF KOREA / REPUBLIC OF KOREA
BETWEEN MALAYSIA AND SOUTHEAST ASIA BETWEEN SINGAPORE
AND SOUTHEAST ASIA BETWEEN THAILAND AND SOUTHEAST ASIA
WITHIN AUSTRALIA.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED AS PER ATTACHED
       ROUTE MAP.

[Combinations]
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  WITH EK FARES
  -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
  -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
  -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS WITH EK FARES
   A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
   PERMITTED.
  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE -
    THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE IN RULE US01/US02/
    USP7/USPA IN TARIFF
    IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
    OR RULE CA01/CA02/CAP2/CAPA IN TARIFF
    IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL.
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE IN RULE BR01/BR02/
    BRP2/BRPA IN TARIFF
    IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
    VIA ATL
    OR RULE BR01/BR02/BRP2/BRPA IN TARIFF
    IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
    MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
    AREA 3.
END-ON-END
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL
  FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
  RESTRICTIONS.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER EK.
 OTHERWISE
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
  COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
  RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF
  COMBINATION.

[Surcharges]
ORIGINATING UNITED STATES -
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE.
OTHERWISE - ORIGINATING UNITED STATES -
  FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 350.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL
  BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

[Penalties]
ORIGINATING MALDIVES -
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       CHANGES
       BEFORE DEPARTURE ----
       IN THE EVENT OF VOLUNTARY CHANGES TO ANY FLIGHT
       THE FARES AND CHARGES FOR THE PASSENGER JOURNEY
       SHALL BE RECALCULATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FARES
       AND CHARGES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE ON WHICH THE
       CHANGE IS MADE AND IS REFLECTED ON THE TICKET.
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION IF ANY.
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER FARE COMPONENT IF ANY.
        WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
        HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
        COMPONENTS WILL APPLY.
       -PENALTY APPLIES TO ADULT/CHILD AND INFANT
        OCCUPYING A SEAT.
       -WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
        A COPY OF A VALID DEATH CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY A
        COMPETENT MEDICAL AUTHORITY IS REQUIRED.
        FAMILY MEMBERS AS DEFINED IN EK CONDITIONS OF
        CARRIAGE OR PASSENGER AIRLINE TARIFF BOOK.
       -SAME DATE/SAME FLIGHT SKYWARDS UPGRADES SHOULD
        NOT BE CHARGED FOR CHANGES.
       -PENALTY FEE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ANY FARE
        DIFFERENCE CAUSED DUE TO VOLUNTARY CHANGE OF
        RBD/SEASONALITY/DAY OF WEEK OF APPLICATION/
        FLIGHT OR BLACKOUTS.
       -REISSUE/REVALIDATION/REROUTING THROUGH EK OFFICE
        ONLY.
       -REBOOKING MUST BE DONE PRIOR TO THE ORIGINAL
        DEPARTURE.
       -REVALIDATION MUST OCCUR AFTER EVERY CHANGE IN
        BOOKING.
       AFTER DEPARTURE ----
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION IF ANY.
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER FARE COMPONENT IF ANY.
        WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
        HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
        COMPONENTS WILL APPLY.
       -PENALTY APPLIES TO ADULT/CHILD AND INFANT
        OCCUPYING A SEAT.
       -WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
        A COPY OF A VALID DEATH CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY A
        COMPETENT MEDICAL AUTHORITY IS REQUIRED.
        FAMILY MEMBERS AS DEFINED IN EK CONDITIONS OF
        CARRIAGE OR PASSENGER AIRLINE TARIFF BOOK.
       -SAME DATE/SAME FLIGHT SKYWARDS UPGRADES SHOULD
         NOT BE CHARGED FOR CHANGES.
        -PENALTY FEE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ANY FARE
         DIFFERENCE CAUSED DUE TO VOLUNTARY CHANGE OF
         RBD/SEASONALITY/DAY OF WEEK OF APPLICATION/
         FLIGHT OR BLACKOUTS.
        -REISSUE/REVALIDATION/REROUTING THROUGH EK OFFICE
         ONLY.
        -REBOOKING MUST BE DONE PRIOR TO THE ORIGINAL
         DEPARTURE.
        -REVALIDATION MUST OCCUR AFTER EVERY CHANGE IN
         BOOKING.
       -------------------------------------------------
       UPGRADES - THE BELOW IS ONLY APPLICABLE IF
       CHANGES ARE PERMITTED
       -AT ANY TIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY THE FARE CAN
        BE RE-ISSUED TO ANY HIGHER FARE IN THE SAME CABIN
        RECALCULATED FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN AT A CHARGE
        AS APPLICABLE PER CHANGE PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS
        OF THE HIGHER FARE HAVE BEEN MET AND THE
        APPLICABLE DIFFERENCE IN FARE IS COLLECTED.
        CHARGE APPLIES PER PASSENGER. PENALTY DOES NOT
        APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. IF THE RE-ISSUED
        TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL
        PENALTY WILL APPLY.
       -AT ANYTIME WITHIN THE TICKET VALIDITY FARES CAN
        BE UPGRADED TO ANY FARE IN A HIGHER CABIN
        RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN PROVIDED THE
        CONDITIONS OF THE HIGHER CABIN FARE HAVE BEEN
        MET. REISSUE FEE WILL BE WAIVED IN THIS CASE. IF
        THE UPGRADED TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE
        ORIGINAL PENALTY WILL APPLY.
       -------------------------------------------------
       CANCELLATION BEFORE DEPARTURE -
       1.WHEN COMBINED WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE
         FARE.
         -DEDUCT THE RETURN AMOUNT OF THE NON-REFUNDABLE
          FARE AND
         -THE REFUND PENALTY OF THE REFUNDABLE FARE.
       2.WHEN COMBINED WITH A REFUNDABLE
         FARE.
         -APPLY THE HIGHER OF THE TWO PENALTIES.
       3.PENALITY APPLIES TO ADULT/CHILD AND INFANT
         OCCUPYING A SEAT.
       4.WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         A COPY OF A VALID DEATH CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY A
         COMPETENT MEDICAL AUTHORITY IS REQUIRED. FAMILY
         MEMBERS AS DEFINED IN EK CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE
         OR PASSENGER AIRLINE TARIFF BOOK.
       --------------------------------------------------
       CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE -
       1.WHEN COMBINED WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE
         FARE AND IF
         A.THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE IS USED ON THE
           OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT
           -DEDUCT THE ONE-WAY FARE IN THE SAME OR
            HIGHER RBD FOR THE ORIGIN DESTINATION PLUS
            REFUND PENALTY OF THE REFUNDABLE FARE.
         B.THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE IS A PART OF THE
           INBOUND FARE COMPONENT
           -NO REFUND APPLIES.
       2.WHEN COMBINED WITH A REFUNDABLE
         FARE
         -DEDUCT THE ONE-WAY FARE IN THE SAME OR HIGHER
          RBD FOR THE FLOWN PORTION.
         -IF TRAVEL ON THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENT HAS
          COMMENCED NO REFUND APPLIES.
       3.PENALITY APPLIES TO ADULT/CHILD AND INFANT
         OCCUPYING A SEAT.
       4.WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         A COPY OF A VALID DEATH CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY A
         COMPETENT MEDICAL AUTHORITY IS REQUIRED. FAMILY
         MEMBERS AS DEFINED IN EK CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE
         OR PASSENGER AIRLINE TARIFF BOOK.
       5.REFUND NOT APPLICABLE ON VOLUNTARY DOWNGRADES.
       6.REFUND IS NOT APPLICABLE ON REMAINING FLIGHT
         COUPONS IF THE TICKET IS UTILIZED OUT OF
         SEQUENCE.
ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       CHANGES -
       BEFORE DEPARTURE ----
       IN THE EVENT OF VOLUNTARY CHANGES TO ANY FLIGHT
       THE FARES AND CHARGES FOR THE PASSENGER JOURNEY
       SHALL BE RECALCULATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FARES
       AND CHARGES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE ON WHICH THE
       CHANGE IS MADE AND IS REFLECTED ON THE TICKET.
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION IF ANY.
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER FARE COMPONENT IF ANY.
        WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
        THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
        COMPONENTS WILL APPLY.
       AFTER DEPARTURE -----
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION IF ANY.
       -THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER FARE COMPONENT IF ANY.
        WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
        THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
        COMPONENTS WILL APPLY.
       --------------------------------------------------
       CANCELLATION BEFORE DEPARTURE -
       1.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE
         FARE
         - DEDUCT THE RETURN AMOUNT OF THE NON-REFUNDABLE
           FARE AND
         - THE REFUND PENALTY OF THE REFUNDABLE FARE.
       2.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A REFUNDABLE
         FARE.
         - APPLY THE HIGHER OF THE TWO PENALTIES.
       --------------------------------------------------
       CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE -
       1.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A NON-REFUNDABLE
         FARE AND IF
         A. THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE IS USED ON THE
            OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT
            - DEDUCT THE ONE-WAY FARE IN THE SAME OR
              HIGHER RBD FOR THE ORIGIN DESTINATION PLUS
              REFUND PENALTY OF THE REFUNDABLE FARE.
         B. THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE IS A PART OF THE
            INBOUND FARE COMPONENT
            - NO REFUND APPLIES.
       ------
       2.WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH A REFUNDABLE
         FARE
         - DEDUCT THE ONE-WAY FARE IN THE SAME OR HIGHER
           RBD FOR THE FLOWN PORTION.
         - IF TRAVEL ON THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENT HAS
           COMMENCED NO REFUND APPLIES.
       --------------------------------------------------
       UPGRADES - THE BELOW IS ONLY APPLICABLE IF
       CHANGES ARE PERMITTED
       -AT ANY TIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY THE FARE CAN
        BE RE-ISSUED TO ANY HIGHER FARE IN THE SAME CABIN
        RECALCULATED FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN AT A CHARGE
        AS APPLICABLE PER CHANGE PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS
        OF THE HIGHER FARE HAVE BEEN MET AND THE
        APPLICABLE DIFFERENCE IN FARE IS COLLECTED.
        CHARGE APPLIES PER PASSENGER. PENALTY DOES NOT
        APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. IF THE RE-ISSUED
        TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL
        PENALTY WILL APPLY.
       -AT ANYTIME WITHIN THE TICKET VALIDITY FARES CAN
        BE UPGRADED TO ANY FARE IN A HIGHER CABIN
        RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN PROVIDED THE
        CONDITIONS OF THE HIGHER CABIN FARE HAVE BEEN
        MET. REISSUE FEE WILL BE WAIVED IN THIS CASE. IF
        THE UPGRADED TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE
        ORIGINAL PENALTY WILL APPLY.

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
CONNECTIONS.
AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
      FOR STOPOVERS.
      NOTE -
       SURCHARGE AND EXCESS MILEAGE CAN BE IGNORED.
       HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
       STOPOVERS/CONNECTIONS.
       --------------------------------------------------
       THESE FARES SHOULD NOT BE COMPARED/CHECKED WITH
       THE FOLLOWING-
       - HIGH IMMEDIATE FARE       -HIF-
       - CIRCLE TRIP MINIMUM CHECK -CTM-

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NON-END/SKYWARDS FLEX/ - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
  OF THE FARE.
      TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
       PERCENT OF THE FARE.
           TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       UNACCOMPANIED INFANT - NOT PERMITTED.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-7 - CHARGE 100
       PERCENT OF THE FARE.
           TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 8-11 - CHARGE 100
       PERCENT OF THE FARE.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
       CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
           TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
       MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
         COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       UNACCOMPANIED INFANT - NOT PERMITTED.

[All Other Discounts]
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       NO OTHER DISCOUNTS PERMITTED

[Voluntary Changes]
ENTER RD*31 OR RDпїЅLINE NUMпїЅ*31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Day/Time]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Seasonality]
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[Minimum Stay]
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.

[Agent Discounts]
AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Refunds]
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.

[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Old Jan 28, 12, 3:03 pm
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Indeed, this is a POS issue:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

KVS Tool actually has 2 Availability POS options (US & JP), and if the OP had used the JP option, it would also have shown F0 A0.
On my KVS Tool the POS is greyed out with US showing. How do I change it to JP when using the availability feature?
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Old Jan 28, 12, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by whimike View Post
On my KVS Tool the POS is greyed out with US showing. How do I change it to JP when using the availability feature?
For the JP Availability POS, please select the [Galileo: ETR] Method.
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Old Jan 28, 12, 4:38 pm
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For the JP Availability POS, please select the [Galileo: ETR] Method.
When I choose [Galileo: ETR] the POS field disappears and I get a Class(es) field.
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Old Jan 29, 12, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by whimike View Post
When I choose [Galileo: ETR] the POS field disappears and I get a Class(es) field.
JP POS is used automatically when you select the [Galileo: ETR] Method -- just enter the Booking Class(es) you are looking for and click [Go].
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