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MAH4546 May 8, 2012 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by Face81 (Post 18519083)

Q: You don't fly to Chicago, Atlanta or Detroit, for example. Are those possibilities?

A: Oh yeah. I think one day we'll fly to Chicago, yes. Fly one day to Florida? Yes. Flying to other destinations? Yes, why not?

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireS...tions-16252981


I don't think it's a coincidence that he mentioned Chicago and Florida (aka Miami) by name.

NOIR May 8, 2012 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by MAH4546 (Post 18537631)
I don't think it's a coincidence that he mentioned Chicago and Florida (aka Miami) by name.

Whats important is the word Florida, which means expect Miami, and Orlando. ;)

Xlr May 8, 2012 11:18 pm

Well, he mentioned Florida without being prompted at all. MIA in H1 2013?

N830MH May 8, 2012 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by Xlr (Post 18540257)
Well, he mentioned Florida without being prompted at all. MIA in H1 2013?

Do you supposed this mean EK will considering service DXB-MIA nonstop. It will operated 77W aircraft. It would be put on weight restrictions.

N830MH May 9, 2012 12:01 am


Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 18521816)
A388 on EK029/030 now postponed to 1-Jul. Given how many times EK has been postponing the A388 on this flight, I am wondering if it will ever come...

Maybe more than 3 or 5 times that EK has postponed the those date. This should have enough already. Please no more postponed the those date.

Face81 May 10, 2012 4:07 am

Emirates takes fresh run at Berlin slots
 
FRANKFURT | Wed May 9, 2012 1:27pm EDT

FRANKFURT May 9 (Reuters) - Airline Emirates took a new approach in its long-running battle to secure slots at Berlin and Stuttgart airports, brandishing before the government a study that contradicts claims it takes business from flag carrier Lufthansa.

"It's not that Germany's restrictive but it's over 10 years now that we've been asking politely," Andrew Parker, senior vice president public affairs at Emirates, told journalists in Frankfurt on Wednesday.

So far, the Gulf-based carrier may only fly to four airports in Germany and its plans to expand have met with fierce opposition from Lufthansa, which claims Emirates benefits from unfair subsidies and is therefore distorting competition on the German market.

The study, compiled for Emirates by the non-profit German Aerospace Centre DLR, says that Emirates has created additional demand for travel between Germany and the eastern hemisphere and that if it were allowed to fly into Berlin and Stuttgart on a daily basis, it would create close to 1,000 jobs through aviation-related activities and tourism.

The research, which Emirates will present to politicians in Berlin, also says Emirates would compete more with rival Gulf airline Etihad than with Lufthansa were it allowed to fly into and out of Berlin and Stuttgart.

Lufthansa has cited competition from Gulf airlines as one of the main reasons why it needs a new 1.5 billion euro ($1.95 billion) savings drive.

Some have argued that Emirates could stop operations at two of the airports it serves now in order to fly into Berlin and Stuttgart, the southwestern German city where it hopes to take advantage of cargo and business travel demand from the region's big carmakers like Daimler.

The recent move by fellow Gulf carrier Etihad to raise its stake in German No.2 carrier Air Berlin to almost 30 percent also highlights Emirates' lack of access to Berlin.

Emirates' Parker said however that the airline would not give up any of its existing destinations in Germany - Frankfurt, Hamburg, Munich and Duesseldorf - nor would it resort to acquisitions to get further access to the market. ($1 = 0.7695 euros) (Reporting by Victoria Bryan; Editing by Hans-Juergen Peters)


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8G98BJ20120509

NOIR May 11, 2012 6:58 am

http://gulfnews.com/business/tourism...pest-1.1020281

Indicators showing Budapest road show.

EK433B77W May 12, 2012 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by blackmamba (Post 18561805)
Wow, so a couple months ago I said that EK would be smart to just partner up with an airline like Jetblue or Virgin America instead of flying nonstop to all those "domestic" cities. Look what they did. Smart.

My advice to EK - Don't fly to MIA or MCO. Let Jetblue handle that for you.

And if Emirates customers don't want to fly JBU to these destinations? A simple deterrence is put in place. I know I wouldn't fly to MIA from DXB if I knew I was going to end up on a JBU aircraft!

I think the reason in which JBU was signed was so Emirates could say 'Yes we fly to MIA or MCO'. So really it's just a short-term stunt in my opinion by Emirates. After all, it's only a matter of time until we'll see a Emirates service into MIA.

I strongly doubt the current B777 fleet size would be able to incur another long-haul sector which would see two aircraft assigned daily.

Face81 May 15, 2012 10:17 am

Germany Rejects Emirates Landings Request, Handelsblatt Reports
 
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By Niklas Magnusson - May 15, 2012 3:40 PM GMT+0100 .


Germany’s transport ministry has rejected a request by Emirates to increase the number of weekly landings it is permitted to make in Germany, Handelsblatt reported, citing confidential correspondence between the ministry and Emirates.

While airlines from the United Arab Emirates, which also include Etihad Airways, are no longer limited to using only the airports in Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf and Hamburg in Germany, they will continue to be limited to 84 landings per week, the newspaper cited the letter as saying, in a preview of an article that will be published tomorrow.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...t-reports.html

CaptainEKAirbus May 15, 2012 10:43 am


Originally Posted by Face81 (Post 18579259)
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By Niklas Magnusson - May 15, 2012 3:40 PM GMT+0100 .


Germany’s transport ministry has rejected a request by Emirates to increase the number of weekly landings it is permitted to make in Germany, Handelsblatt reported, citing confidential correspondence between the ministry and Emirates.

While airlines from the United Arab Emirates, which also include Etihad Airways, are no longer limited to using only the airports in Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf and Hamburg in Germany, they will continue to be limited to 84 landings per week, the newspaper cited the letter as saying, in a preview of an article that will be published tomorrow.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...t-reports.html

This article is a bit confusing... Qatar Airways is in-fact an airline from Qatar, and not the United Arab Emirates. Anyhow, does the 84 landings per week mean 84 landings per week for the UAE only? or EK only? EK operates a total of 63 weekly passenger flights, that said I'm not sure how many cargo flights are operated. But I'd imagine that EY operates more than 20 flights a week to Germany. It must be annoying for EK now because before they had unlimited frequencies/capacity to those select destinations, and thus it makes it more difficult for them to add a third daily to Hamburg, Munich, or Dusseldorf.

MucEKPer May 15, 2012 10:45 am

So if I understand the article right,
UAE airlines can now access all airports in Germany but are limited to 84 landing per 7 days.

If so I don't see the problem with 84 landings

MUC-2x Daily=14 Landings (21 if 3rd Daily is added)
FRA-3x Daily=21 Landings
DUS-2x Daily=14 Landings
HAM-2x Daily= 14 Landings

=63 Landings a week (70 if MUC goes 3/7)

then

BER-Daily=7 Landings (14 if 2 daily)
STR- Daily=7 Landings

=77 Landings (+7 for either 3/7 MUC or 2/7 BER)

Obviously in the future it would hamper thier expansion but for now it looks positive.

CaptainEKAirbus May 15, 2012 11:30 am


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 18579426)
So if I understand the article right,
UAE airlines can now access all airports in Germany but are limited to 84 landing per 7 days.

If so I don't see the problem with 84 landings

MUC-2x Daily=14 Landings (21 if 3rd Daily is added)
FRA-3x Daily=21 Landings
DUS-2x Daily=14 Landings
HAM-2x Daily= 14 Landings

=63 Landings a week (70 if MUC goes 3/7)

then

BER-Daily=7 Landings (14 if 2 daily)
STR- Daily=7 Landings

=77 Landings (+7 for either 3/7 MUC or 2/7 BER)

Obviously in the future it would hamper thier expansion but for now it looks positive.

You aren't counting the cargo flights EK also has to FRA, not sure how many that is per week.

blackmamba May 15, 2012 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by MAH4546 (Post 18537631)
I don't think it's a coincidence that he mentioned Chicago and Florida (aka Miami) by name.

It means it's in his mind. It doesn't mean they will fly there for sure.

EK flyer May 15, 2012 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by Face81 (Post 18579259)
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By Niklas Magnusson - May 15, 2012 3:40 PM GMT+0100 .


Germany’s transport ministry has rejected a request by Emirates to increase the number of weekly landings it is permitted to make in Germany, Handelsblatt reported, citing confidential correspondence between the ministry and Emirates.

While airlines from the United Arab Emirates, which also include Etihad Airways, are no longer limited to using only the airports in Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf and Hamburg in Germany, they will continue to be limited to 84 landings per week, the newspaper cited the letter as saying, in a preview of an article that will be published tomorrow.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...t-reports.html

As a half German i feel truly ashamed how our government acts like some sort of a protectionist dictatorship a la North Korea. Instead of "supporting" Lufthansa this way they should scrap the ridiculous taxes and organise their airport system more efficiently to prevent such a disaster as in Berlin. I would love to see Emirates countributing to Germany's economy and giving passengers a choice to enjoy affordable luxury even beyond the - very limited - Lufthansa network. :(

jarino May 16, 2012 9:42 am


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 18579426)
UAE airlines can now access all airports in Germany but are limited to 84 landing per 7 days.

The article confuses a lot. EK and EY can operate unlimited flights to Germany, but only to 4 airports. Since EK already chose 4 airports, Etihad can only fly to them, too.


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