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NYTA Apr 20, 2018 2:48 am

797 RR Engine Issues
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/19/b...op-cracks.html
Does anyone know if the Rolls Royce engines on the LY dreamliners are impacted by the latest issues? I have heard that newer versions of these engines are ok.

mikebg May 6, 2018 2:19 am


Originally Posted by NYTA (Post 29663188)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/19/b...op-cracks.html
Does anyone know if the Rolls Royce engines on the LY dreamliners are impacted by the latest issues? I have heard that newer versions of these engines are ok.

Well, if they are affected, it will be far worse than this article indicates, as they have now restricted these engines to being within ONE HOUR of an airport:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...t-amid-engine/

clubman May 6, 2018 8:11 am


Originally Posted by mikebg (Post 29720838)
Well, if they are affected, it will be far worse than this article indicates, as they have now restricted these engines to being within ONE HOUR of an airport:

Indeed. This is seriously effecting BA and VS.

sabbasolo May 7, 2018 1:13 am

Well the LY 787 definitely have Rolls Royce Trent 1000-TEN engines, see https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ice-de-423377/

However the Package C version is most affected, and I don't know if that is what LY have.

Since the service facilities are overwhelmed, (Air New Zealand has had to ground some planes, because unlike BA they don't have non-ETOPS routes to use them on).

NYTA May 7, 2018 6:20 am

Anybody know any media people who can check this out? Wondering if LY knows about it and is doing nothing because they haven't been forced to do so by the regulator.

sabbasolo May 8, 2018 10:05 am

dangerous error by El Al pilot
 
https://www.timesofisrael.com/probe-...rcraft-weight/

40 tons too light, affecting take off calculations

Innocent Abroad May 9, 2018 4:58 am


Originally Posted by sabbasolo (Post 29729966)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/probe-...rcraft-weight/

40 tons too light, affecting take off calculations

And some others during the emergency landing in YYZ in December 2016, including the captain leaving his seat during climb out against all rules :(

The full Hebrew report here.

ly787 May 16, 2018 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by sabbasolo (Post 29724040)
Well the LY 787 definitely have Rolls Royce Trent 1000-TEN engines, see https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ice-de-423377/

However the Package C version is most affected, and I don't know if that is what LY have.

Since the service facilities are overwhelmed, (Air New Zealand has had to ground some planes, because unlike BA they don't have non-ETOPS routes to use them on).

where in the article does it say they have Trent 1000 Ten?
the ten are not affected.
only package C with more than 300 cycles of service .
The problem is that they need to go into maintenance every 300 cycles, down from1200

Tlvyyz Jun 14, 2018 7:19 am

031 to YYZ 767 stuck in TLV 2 hours and counting
 
Maybe they should suspend the YYZ route until the 787 kicks in... Just sayin...

joshwex90 Jun 14, 2018 8:11 am

Not sure why, but EL AL has delayed both EWR-bound flights on Wednesday and Thursday, as well as for Friday morning. And I believe also at least one on Tuesday

Nexus 617 Jun 14, 2018 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 29866084)
Not sure why, but EL AL has delayed both EWR-bound flights on Wednesday and Thursday, as well as for Friday morning. And I believe also at least one on Tuesday

I'll start by saying I don't know the exact reason why these IRROPS have happened, and my definition of "on time" is very loose, but this is what I can tell:

Tuesday 12 June
EDB operated LY 27/28 on time.
EDD operated LY 25/26 on time.

Wednesday 13 June
EDA missed the curfew to depart LY 27 to EWR so took off at 0500 instead. Inbound LY 26 was on time.
EDB operated LY 25/26 on time.
EDC arrived on time from HKG but then stayed on the ground instead of operating LY 27 the next day.
EDD operated LY 75 to HKG on time.

Thursday 14 June
EDA returned as LY 28 from EWR on time. It was scheduled to operate LY 25 but instead operated a delayed LY 27 and a slightly-late LY 28.
EDB returned as LY 26 from EWR on time. It was scheduled to operate LY 75 but instead operated a delayed LY 25 and will return as a very late LY 26.
EDC has not flown.
EDD operating LY 78 from HKG on time.
It looks like ECC (a 772) will operate LY 75 tonight. I'm guessing it was planned to operate LY 27 on Friday.

Friday 15 June
LY 27 is scheduled as a 772, but the next available aircraft is ECB returning from LHR as LY 318. I'm guessing LY 27 will be delayed to ~0700.

LatusElAl Jun 14, 2018 3:08 pm

The pilots are doing "pirate strikes" - calling in sick, not being available, creating fake delays.
They've re-opened the circus from last year.
The poor bubelles, the highest paid commercial pilots in the world, refuse to increase their cockpit hours commiserate to industry standards and are also insisting on working one-way only, sitting in Business Class for the return leg of each aircraft, not overnighting at the destination (also industry standard).

24left Jun 15, 2018 6:14 pm

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clubman Jun 16, 2018 9:40 pm

http://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/564115

awayIgo Jul 5, 2018 2:21 pm

LY002 , July 4 , JFK to TLV my friend was on it. ( she is in a wheelchair) Apparently passengers were 1/ 2 boarded when they announced that everyone had to get off, plane was going to be delayed 2 hours because they needed to add fuel! There was supposedly a whole to do, because some wheelchair passengers were already onboard and there were no escorts available.

Anyone have any idea of what really happened?


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