LY refusing to receive the B739 earlier
May 5, 2013 | 12:35 pm
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I do not disagree with what you post and there have been many occasions where I myself felt the tone and tenor of your comments.
With that said, it may be true that they have or had no interest in competing and that for them, EL AL, is and was a matter of prestige. However, that is coming to an end soon. I don't think it is very prestigious or glamorous for Tami Borovich to be in a position where she has to lure outside investors like FIMI to help her keep the company afloat. I also don't think it is prestigious for her that essentially the Israeli people and government are fed up with the way her company is run and the demands it makes on the Israeli government and taxpayer.
The fact is that time is fast approaching where Mrs. Borovich and EL AL need to look themselves in the mirror and make some difficult choices. Either institute real change and reforms aimed at adapting and thriving in the marketplace which will produce sustained profitability or fold and carry the stigma of shame which will forever haunt them in the minds and conscience of the Israeli people and global aviation industry. I think Mrs. Borovich and the people around her know this and will make the right decisions.
May 5, 2013 | 1:08 pm
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May 5, 2013 | 1:38 pm
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May 5, 2013 | 7:00 pm
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May 6, 2013 | 3:56 am
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May 18, 2013 | 10:25 am
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YOU WISH (as do I) that any of the fat cows in El Al management reads or cares about anything written here or any customer opinions - even from customers who are successful businessmen. Management, from Tami Borowich on down, care nothing about their brand or even about making money (yes, you read correctly). Its all about prestige and favors for a bunch of old school, old boys club, ex-air force shlubs who haven't a clue about the commercial airline business and still operate as if they were a Mapai sponsored monopoly, knowing full well that even if they are theoretically a public, non-governmental corporation, the Israeli government will never let them fail. They have no interest in competing - and to prove it, the latest strike had zero to do with Open Skies and everything to do with squeezing a subsidy out of the Finance Ministry. They used their employees as pawns.
Nobody reads this forum. Liat, as well-intended as she may be, is just a cosmetic olive branch, as are all the TP/PL "concierge" folks - who have to constantly run interference with the fat cows in order to get the simplest of benefits for the best customers. Its just cosmetics.
Nobody reads this forum. Liat, as well-intended as she may be, is just a cosmetic olive branch, as are all the TP/PL "concierge" folks - who have to constantly run interference with the fat cows in order to get the simplest of benefits for the best customers. Its just cosmetics.
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May 19, 2013 | 6:05 am
#43
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Nobody reads this forum. Liat, as well-intended as she may be, is just a cosmetic olive branch, as are all the TP/PL "concierge" folks - who have to constantly run interference with the fat cows in order to get the simplest of benefits for the best customers. Its just cosmetics.
I Appreciate your feedback. However, I tend to disagree.
We're here to try and learn, help, and assist in any way we can.
As the head of social media @ EL AL I enter this forum almost on a daily basis. It's true that recently things have been a little intense here due to the strike, but I think it'll be fair to say that overall we're moving forward.
We care about FT and FT'ers, we greatly appreciate your feedback and I believe that we've shown so in the last couple of months, not only by "well intention".
Yes, there will always be more things to do and the job is never over, but "olive branches", as you may know, are a symbol for peace and victory, and we don't think that we deserve that title yet.
Feel free to contact me directly regarding every matter.
Liat.
Last edited by EL AL Rep.; May 19, 2013 at 6:11 am
Jun 9, 2013 | 8:43 pm
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I'm not sure that they would store them at PAE, though I suppose they could. Boeing is much more than just Everett.
737s are manufactured at RNT with final preparation for delivery done at BFI.
Test flights are done at several locations in addition to RNT, BFI, & PAE. Notably MWH, but also SBT, EDW, ROW, and other sites as well.
Still, if space is at a premium (or rents high), Boeing would likely store at MZJ which offers one of the most secure places to park aircraft.
Still given the demand for aircraft, the birds are likely to be sold quite soon.
737s are manufactured at RNT with final preparation for delivery done at BFI.
Test flights are done at several locations in addition to RNT, BFI, & PAE. Notably MWH, but also SBT, EDW, ROW, and other sites as well.
Still, if space is at a premium (or rents high), Boeing would likely store at MZJ which offers one of the most secure places to park aircraft.
Still given the demand for aircraft, the birds are likely to be sold quite soon.