Two things in this threade made me personally chuckle, here's #1:

And here's #2:

As if we're actually negotiating on behalf of El Al and Boeing. Heh.

Some of us try to understand LY's business model. Nothing more nothing less.

Some of us also understand that EL AL management reads what is written here and we wish to offer constructive advice so that the airline could improve.

I'm all for that for things like service & seats, but I doubt very much they make choices about taking aircraft early based on FT.

I agree. Ultimately they make choices based on internal factors such as finances, organizational plans, and issues surrounding organizational behavior and decision making.

However, it never hurts listening (or in this case, reading) the opinions of those outside of the organization, even on forums like this one.

No, but it will not change a thing.

That is precisely the sort of self destructive thinking that inhibits progress, causes stagnation, and leads to decline. Unfortunately, a significant amount of people in and around EL AL have that sort of mentality which is precisely why the company is at its current dismal state.

After reading what everyone written i think we bunch of awesomeness

we do consulting for elal its cool i think

I agree! I am just saying it as it is.

I laugh because of the long discussion in this thread and the other thread. Elal management don't care....

YOU WISH (as do I) that any of the fat cows in El Al management reads or cares about anything written here or any customer opinions - even from customers who are successful businessmen. Management, from Tami Borowich on down, care nothing about their brand or even about making money (yes, you read correctly). Its all about prestige and favors for a bunch of old school, old boys club, ex-air force shlubs who haven't a clue about the commercial airline business and still operate as if they were a Mapai sponsored monopoly, knowing full well that even if they are theoretically a public, non-governmental corporation, the Israeli government will never let them fail. They have no interest in competing - and to prove it, the latest strike had zero to do with Open Skies and everything to do with squeezing a subsidy out of the Finance Ministry. They used their employees as pawns.

Nobody reads this forum. Liat, as well-intended as she may be, is just a cosmetic olive branch, as are all the TP/PL "concierge" folks - who have to constantly run interference with the fat cows in order to get the simplest of benefits for the best customers. Its just cosmetics.

While harsh, I do feel that post was 100% spot-on.

+1

It is not an airline. It is Israel.

+1

ITS REMINDS ME WHAT BEEN LIKE THE ISRAELI SITCOM Ha-Chaim Ze Lo Hacol החיים זה לא הכול WHEN 2 OF WRITERS GADI AND MICKY THAT WROTE TO KONBLER SHOW AND HE ALL TIME WHEN THEY STARTING TO READ THE THINGS IS PHONE ALWAYS RINGING AND HES ANSWERS IT AND BECAUSE THAT HES DOESNT LIKE THE THEY BRING AND THEY TELL HIM IF YOU WOULD STOP ANSWERING THE PHONE YOU WOULD LIKE IT

THE B739 AND ELAL DIRECTORS AND THINGS REMIND ME THIS