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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 2:59 am
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Originally Posted by clarence5ybr
Today, the majors like Bud and Miller are still crap, but there is so much amazing American beer out there today (e.g., Russian River Brewing, Green Flash, Surly, Stone, etc., etc., etc.) that I can't believe you are still spouting lines like "done the impossible and produces an American beer that is drinkable."
OK, then let me modify that - "done the impossible and produces an American beer that is drinkable while at the same time being able to sell it effectively enough that it is easily found across a broad range of locales".

Because whenever I order a beer in the States, all that is available on tap is the same mass-market swill. Otherwise it's something imported and bottled - though that usually ends up being preferable.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by clarence5ybr
Although some of their specialty beers are not bad, I really don't care for the Sam Adams 'flagship' beer.

As for your comments on American beer, they are so far out of date that they are laughable. In the early 1980s, when Anchor Steam and Geary's were the only two truly good American beers I was familiar with, you may have had a valid point. Today, the majors like Bud and Miller are still crap, but there is so much amazing American beer out there today (e.g., Russian River Brewing, Green Flash, Surly, Stone, etc., etc., etc.) that I can't believe you are still spouting lines like "done the impossible and produces an American beer that is drinkable."
There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations. I've actually found one restaurant that sells $2 pints/every day, all day, including microbrews. However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.
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OK, then let me modify that - "done the impossible and produces an American beer that is drinkable while at the same time being able to sell it effectively enough that it is easily found across a broad range of locales".

Because whenever I order a beer in the States, all that is available on tap is the same mass-market swill. Otherwise it's something imported and bottled - though that usually ends up being preferable.
A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:50 am
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Capital and New Glarus, among others, are Wisconsin breweries which make excellent beer (and ales, stouts, etc.)
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:03 am
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In northern NY, Molson is treated as a domestic.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:05 am
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Well in a lot places, micros sell well... and in some others, they don't sell well at all. Think of the deep South.

Sam Adams is listed as an import/premium because it costs more than Bud/Miller/Coors.

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A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper
There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations. I've actually found one restaurant that sells $2 pints/every day, all day, including microbrews. However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.

A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.
Willing to share the restaurant name?

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper
There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations. I've actually found one restaurant that sells $2 pints/every day, all day, including microbrews. However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.
A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.
I don't find it that challenging, of course I mostly eat in chain restaurants for lunch on the road. No beers at lunch for me.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper
There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations. I've actually found one restaurant that sells $2 pints/every day, all day, including microbrews. However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.

A lot of places haven't realized yet that microbrews sell well.
Trust me the same is true in most European countires. Go to any restuarant and most pubs/bars, good or not, and all they serve is chemical swill made by multinational brewers. You have to go to smaller towns to see more diversity, primarily because of people supporting their local microbrews.

So the US is no different really.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 1:46 pm
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Sam Adams is listed as an import/premium because it costs more than Bud/Miller/Coors.
Ya think price is the only difference?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 1:55 pm
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by osamede
Trust me the same is true in most European countires. Go to any restuarant and most pubs/bars, good or not, and all they serve is chemical swill made by multinational brewers. You have to go to smaller towns to see more diversity, primarily because of people supporting their local microbrews.
Wow. In Germany or Belgium, you can't walk down a street in a town of any size without encountering a working brauhaus with food on the tables and a brewery in the back. In places like Muenchen, Berlin, and Koeln, they're two to a block (Duesseldorf: 3). In the U.S., the situation isn't quite like that, but within ten miles of my house you will find
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=f...=UTF8&z=9&om=1
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by OliverS
I am at the Marriott Winston Salem right now and after getting back last night had a few beers at the bar with a friend.
They had Sam Adams listed as import (instead of as domestic) which also meant they charged $5 for it, not $4.
Ahhh, life below the Mason-Dixon.

Is there anything to warrant listing Sam Adams as an import at all?
No, the idiots down there haven't a clue.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper
There are a lot of very good microbrews in the US now, but it's often difficult to find them at many locations.
In some ways that's a good thing. When I'm in the Northeast, I look forward to having a Harpoon...in the so-called "upper midwest", Surly and Summit...in CA, Russian River and Green Flash....etc. So you might not be able to find the same thing everywhere you go, but there's almost always something, even if it's something you haven't tried before.

Originally Posted by kipper
However, especially finding a chain restaurant that serves microbrews can be very challenging.
I guess I've avoided that problem by not going to chain restaurants.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Analise
Ahhh, life below the Mason-Dixon.

No, the idiots down there haven't a clue.
Watch out Analise, you are hitting below the belt and we have Chuck Norris!
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 3:41 pm
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Domestic beer at import price! (A menu heading that won't get much play.)
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