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BamaVol Mar 27, 2015 7:44 am


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 24573230)
I'm not exactly sure where the truth lies at Balcones and Chip Tate but I know one thing: Chip Tate worked hard at crafting a product that he could be proud of. That philosophy can clash with investors who focus on the bottom line. I think he left enough of a legacy at Balcones that they'll still put out good stuff....

Old Weller 107 is one of the best bargains in whiskey. Same mash bill as Pappy at a fraction of the price. Weller 12 also ranks up there. I bought a case of Old Weller for gifts and have plowed through it sadly; leaving me with only 1 bottle left... I would really urge you to try Four Roses again. Not the Yellow Label but the Single Barrel or Small Batch. For years Four Roses sent their best stuff to Japan but they reveresed that trend in recent year (probably starting in 2008). Jim Rutledge is a master distiller and they are really killing it recently. Probably some of my favorite stuff. They do a lot of private barrels for stores that are also nice to look for.

I love having whisky at the end of a hard day... really brings life into focus!

FDW

I will look for the Weller and Four Roses too. Like TMOliver, I'm old enough to remember Four Roses as a bottom shelf brand so thanks to this thread, I am being reeducated.

I like a whiskey at the end of the day to make life a little fuzzier. No reason I shouldn't enjoy every sip though.

thelark Mar 27, 2015 11:30 am


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 24573295)
I will look for the Weller and Four Roses too. Like TMOliver, I'm old enough to remember Four Roses as a bottom shelf brand so thanks to this thread, I am being reeducated.

I like a whiskey at the end of the day to make life a little fuzzier. No reason I shouldn't enjoy every sip though.

FDW speaks the truth. 4R has been crushing it - still great availability and reasonable prices. No reason not to keep a few bottles on your shelf.

BamaVol Mar 27, 2015 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 24573230)
Old Weller 107 is one of the best bargains in whiskey. Same mash bill as Pappy at a fraction of the price. Weller 12 also ranks up there. I bought a case of Old Weller for gifts and have plowed through it sadly; leaving me with only 1 bottle left... I would really urge you to try Four Roses again. Not the Yellow Label but the Single Barrel or Small Batch. For years Four Roses sent their best stuff to Japan but they reveresed that trend in recent year (probably starting in 2008). Jim Rutledge is a master distiller and they are really killing it recently. Probably some of my favorite stuff. They do a lot of private barrels for stores that are also nice to look for.

I love having whisky at the end of a hard day... really brings life into focus!

FDW

The 4R small batch is $29.99 at the local Mega-ABC. That's a very attractive price point. I have guests due in a couple weeks and usually gift them with a bottle of something. I believe I now have a plan.

pseudoswede Mar 27, 2015 12:42 pm

FIL Swede asked me to pick up two bottles of this...

https://blogofbourbon.wordpress.com/...single-barrel/

One he's keeping here, the other he's bringing back to Sweden.

thelark Mar 27, 2015 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 24574766)
The 4R small batch is $29.99 at the local Mega-ABC. That's a very attractive price point. I have guests due in a couple weeks and usually gift them with a bottle of something. I believe I now have a plan.

Skip the small batch and go for the single barrel if they have it. Should be <$40.

exerda Mar 27, 2015 7:02 pm


Originally Posted by pseudoswede (Post 24574934)
FIL Swede asked me to pick up two bottles of this...

https://blogofbourbon.wordpress.com/...single-barrel/

One he's keeping here, the other he's bringing back to Sweden.

FWIW, someone recommended to me blending the Old Weller 107 with the Weller 12 or Weller Special Reserve for imitation Pappy. I haven't tried it as I only have the 107 on hand. (This is the same someone who gifted me a small bottle of Pappy 20 for Christmas.)

FlyingDoctorwu Mar 27, 2015 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 24574573)
FDW speaks the truth. 4R has been crushing it - still great availability and reasonable prices. No reason not to keep a few bottles on your shelf.


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 24576435)
Skip the small batch and go for the single barrel if they have it. Should be <$40.

I prefer the single barrel as well.. if you can find a store pick barrel that's barrel proof those are great... I love higher proof whiskey (usually 115-130 is the barrel proof) and Four Roses makes a good one...Also the geek in me loves the different recipes that Four Roses has... However, if you ever see the limited edition small batch please pick it up.... it's significantly more (~$80) but usually excellent. This years was good; the previous years amazing...


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 24576671)
FWIW, someone recommended to me blending the Old Weller 107 with the Weller 12 or Weller Special Reserve for imitation Pappy. I haven't tried it as I only have the 107 on hand. (This is the same someone who gifted me a small bottle of Pappy 20 for Christmas.)


Ahh poor man's pappy...


I did a 40/60 mix of Weller 12/Weller 107... it's pretty good but honestly I prefer the products as a stand alone...

FDW

BamaVol Mar 28, 2015 5:23 am


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 24576435)
Skip the small batch and go for the single barrel if they have it. Should be <$40.

It was and I did. It was yesterday afternoon so you must have been sending the vibe prior to posting.

lea25 Apr 7, 2015 7:18 pm

Elijah Craig's 18
 
Elijah Craig's 18, I like mixing it with Scofflaw cocktail.

FlyingDoctorwu Apr 8, 2015 5:40 am


Originally Posted by lea25 (Post 24632329)
Elijah Craig's 18, I like mixing it with Scofflaw cocktail.

Elijah Craig 18 was one of the best values in bourbon and my favorite. Too bad it's been off the market since 2012 I think. The 20+ yr releases they've been putting out are over Oakes and overpriced imo.
Fdw

exerda May 1, 2015 5:23 pm

VA ABC stores in this area just got in Stagg, Jr., at $50/bottle and a whopping 134.4 proof. I have to say it's not bad even neat and smoother-drinking than one would expect for such a high-test bourbon. It's going fast, though; stores which showed 5 in stock yesterday show 0 today, and I picked up the last bottle at one of the stores along my commute.

broadwayblue May 1, 2015 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 24634117)
Elijah Craig 18 was one of the best values in bourbon and my favorite. Too bad it's been off the market since 2012 I think. The 20+ yr releases they've been putting out are over Oakes and overpriced imo.
Fdw

Pretty sure I just read that EC18 will be back on the market by the end of the year. Price will likely be significantly higher though ($100+).

whackyjacky May 1, 2015 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 24752536)
VA ABC stores in this area just got in Stagg, Jr., at $50/bottle and a whopping 134.4 proof. I have to say it's not bad even neat and smoother-drinking than one would expect for such a high-test bourbon. It's going fast, though; stores which showed 5 in stock yesterday show 0 today, and I picked up the last bottle at one of the stores along my commute.

It's awesome and a great way to singe off pesky unwanted nose hairs. I usually put a couple cubes in it to good effect.

thelark May 4, 2015 8:30 am

interesting - stores around here have had it sitting for months. price is a bit higher though, I think closer to 70. I'd grab it at 50.

thelark May 12, 2015 7:46 pm

Figured this doesn't deserve its own thread and is just as likely to get an answer here: anyone have experience with willett 7yr rye? Found a place with some in stock and wondering if it's worth grabbing.


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