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stimpy Nov 24, 2014 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 23890598)
There's a pro for staying at the Rosewood.. what are they charging for a pour of PVW23? The bottle of Blanton's straight from the barrel is worth trying; isn't sold in the USA. Though if you're based overseas it's pretty easy to get...

Regrettably I'm nursing a cold and I didn't want to waste a glass of great bourbon when my taste buds aren't 100% ready for it. Next time I'm in London I'll head back to this bar. But as I think I've posted above, there are several other hotels and restaurants in London that serve these great whiskeys.

Kagehitokiri Nov 24, 2014 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 23890714)
hotels and restaurants in London that serve these great whiskeys.

if some arent served (by glass) elsewhere, then price doesnt matter, but arent most prices for these kinds of things in london high?

stimpy Nov 24, 2014 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 23890774)
if some arent served (by glass) elsewhere, then price doesnt matter, but arent most prices for these kinds of things in london high?

From this thread it seems that it's actually cheaper in London than in the US. Any high end bar in London is going to be very expensive for drinks. At the Rosewood Scarfe's bar I paid 9 pounds for a Manhattan I don't even know what kind of bourbon they used. However if you look above there are some ridiculous prices being paid for RPV 23 in the US. If you can even find it!

Herb687 Dec 18, 2014 4:14 pm

The best bourbon I have experienced is the James E. Pepper 1776 15 Year. Great stuff. Actually an Indiana bourbon. James E. Pepper has four whiskeys (2 ryes, 2 bourbons) under the 1776 brand so make sure you are drinking the right one.

whackyjacky Dec 21, 2014 5:50 pm

I'm sure you know you can't call it Bourbon. Thanks for the tip though.

Points Scrounger Dec 21, 2014 5:53 pm

I'm fond of bourbon, and can't stand adding water to it. Give me a glass of cold water on the side.

HERESY ALERT!

Trader Joe's brand isn't too bad for the price.

stimpy Dec 22, 2014 1:39 am


Originally Posted by whackyjacky (Post 24034184)
I'm sure you know you can't call it Bourbon. Thanks for the tip though.

True. There's no such thing as Bourbon from Indiana!

TWA884 Dec 22, 2014 9:29 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 24035358)

Originally Posted by whackyjacky (Post 24034184)
I'm sure you know you can't call it Bourbon. Thanks for the tip though.

True. There's no such thing as Bourbon from Indiana!

I disagree.
Liquor.com


Bourbon must be made from a mash that is at least 51% corn. The rest of the mash is made up of rye, wheat and/or malted barley. While most bourbon today is still made in Kentucky, it can legally be made anywhere in the United States. The spirit’s beautiful amber color comes from the wood that it's aged in for at least two years while the alcohol by volume climbs to a minimum of 40% (80-proof) before bottling.
Men's Journal


What Makes a Bourbon: A Cheat Sheet

  • Must be made in the United States.
  • Must contain 51 percent corn.
  • Must be aged in new oak charred barrels.
  • Must be distilled to no more than 160 proof and entered into the barrel at 125 proof.
  • Must be bottled at no less than 80 proof.
  • Must not contain any added flavoring, coloring or other additives.


stimpy Dec 22, 2014 9:56 am

True, you won't go to jail for labeling your Indiana whiskey Bourbon. But to a Bourbon purist it has to come from Kentucky, where they've been making it since the 1700's.

Pa Kettle Dec 22, 2014 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 24036977)
True, you won't go to jail for labeling your Indiana whiskey Bourbon. But to a Bourbon purist it has to come from Kentucky, where they've been making it since the 1700's.

Courtesy of csufabel.

There are several bourbon distillers in Texas, the best of which is Garrison Brothers.

BamaVol Dec 22, 2014 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 24036977)
True, you won't go to jail for labeling your Indiana whiskey Bourbon. But to a Bourbon purist it has to come from Kentucky, where they've been making it since the 1700's.

Wait, next you'll be saying that the Japanese aren't really producing scotch.

nkedel Dec 22, 2014 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 24037940)
Wait, next you'll be saying that the Japanese aren't really producing scotch.

Japenese malt whisky, including some single malts, can be a very fine thing (and some of them downright bargains compared to Scotch) but I've never seen them referred to as "Scotch" except colloquially.

Pa Kettle Dec 22, 2014 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 24037940)
Wait, next you'll be saying that the Japanese aren't really producing scotch.

They aren't. It can't be called Scotch unless it's made in Scotland. They can, however, call it whisky every day of the week and twice on Sunday, if they wish. ;)

stimpy Dec 22, 2014 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by Pa Kettle (Post 24037929)

From that list, I don't see any Bourbon that I know and love from outside of KY. I see a couple of rye's, but those we know come from all over, and the rye itself mostly comes from Canada.

whackyjacky Dec 22, 2014 5:23 pm

Well I learned something today. I thought it was illegal like calling Schramsberg sparkling wine - 'Champagne' or Yamazaki Whisky - 'Scotch'. BTW, Pritchard's, a great Tenn Whiskey, made a 'Single Malt' a few years back of barley & rye. It tasted more like Irish than Scotch & it was great. Then there's Glenora Distillery in Nova Scotia that won the right to use "Glen'. Their whiskey - meh.


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