As I think I have written above, you can find Pappy in a few different London and Paris bars for about 10 pounds or so a glass.

I'm out of the business now, but I could never get my hands on much in my bar, unless I bought a lot of Sazerac Group's unsellable Rain Vodka. It was an up front 'quid pro quo'. Just a few years ago the 20 was around $100 (wholesale) & rarely available. The 23 was always around & I thought it was a rip at $190. it's good, but it's not that good. It's analogous to the 'Dutch Tulip Mania'. Has Chinese demand stoked this fire ?

Yeah, prices are all over the board. My local bar charges $13 for the 10 year and $18 for the 12 year, although they don't always have the 12. They're probably the outlier though, as they make a point of making sure that the price is something that allows the masses to enjoy it as opposed to a select few. I was in Florida earlier this year and the bar I was at was charging $65 for the 12 year.

I just took the Buffalo Trace tour a couple weeks ago. The guide told us that Pappy comes from barrels treated, aged, stored exactly like one of their othèr bourbons. Pappy is just selected from among them by certain tasters. So you can get pretty much the same experience for a lot less.

I was at a party in high school where a guy drank a bunch of Southern Comfort and threw up on the hood of a car. It made the paint bubble. No way I am drinking that stuff.

weller 12

I'm pretty sure that's the puke, and not the booze.

Sounds like me. My first experience drinking was with Wild Turkey and Pepsi. It didn't stay down...I haven't been able to touch it since.

I've always considered anybody over high school age that drinks SoCo as a person not worth knowing.

I make exceptions for college freshman but on the whole, I agree

I have a friend who got wildly drunk from consuming a bottle of cherry brandy in high school and threw up. 40 years later, whenever he smells cherries, cherry cough syrup, cherry beer, cough drops, anything, he gets nauseous. The human brain is an amazing thing.

After a weekend in France drinking 8% Trappist beer with Pastis chasers I know how he feels.
It's not a combination I'd recommend to anyone but when you're on a rugby outing choice doesn't always come in to what you're consuming.

PA released BTAC only via a twitter link. unreal.

Per dollar I am going to have to throw my weight behind Jefferson Presidential Select. It's basically Pappy, at 1/3 the price. Not made anymore, but I bought 2 bottles back in the day and have been hoarding it. For my money I don't know of anything better. If somehow you stumble across a bottle anywhere... DRINK IT

A quick google reveals that it can be had, albeit at a steep price. Someone in the UK could get a bottle for $177 that we might be paying $1,000+ for stateside. The problem seems to arise from the closure of the distillery where it was produced. I remember seeing it on shelves. Had I known, I'd have bought a couple bottles to hoard myself.

Ahhh someone who knows his mashbills. Sadly weller 12 is also fairly tough to get in some places. I haven't seen a bottle in MD in years. The weller 12/OWA 107 mixture is considered by many to be "poor mans pappy". I'm dying to try parkers wheated whiskey this year. That's been the one that I've most looked forward to this year. I'm a huge fan of most wheated products, with the barrel roof William larue weller being my absolute fav.

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