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gfunkdave Mar 17, 2014 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by whackyjacky (Post 22528753)
I find Maraschino cherries disgusting. In the old days when I worked for people who used them, I often thought I'd rather stick my hand in a jar of donkey piss than into that sticky sweet goo. Unless your body has a specific need for Red Dye #2, stay away and don't put any of that crap in a Manhattan. Find some dark cherries marinated in booze or do it yourself with your liquor of choice. I've tried Brandy, Rum, Tuaca, Rye, Southern Comfort, Yukon Jack & Bourbon so far. Ain't nothing hard about it and they all turned out great.

To be fair, the day-glo red cherries that one buys at the store labelled "maraschino cherries" are NOT real maraschino cherries. Real maraschino cherries are Marasca cherries preserved in maraschino liqueur, which is a liqueur made from Marasca cherries. Marasca cherries are only grown on the Dalmatian coast, IIRC.

The imitation "maraschino cherries" you buy in the store are other varieties of cherry preserved in a soup of chemicals and sugar.

The dark cherries you get in drinks at bars that take their cocktails seriously are probably not maraschino cherries (since marasca cherries are pretty rare) but are another variety of cherry soaked in booze (could even be maraschino liqueur - I think Luxardo is the most widely available brand).

whackyjacky Mar 17, 2014 10:33 pm

Luxardo are good, but cost more than the Bourbon. That's why we make our own.

diabolicNYC Mar 18, 2014 6:32 am

Best: 23 year old Pappy Van Winkle(if you can find it)
Smoothest: Basil Hayden
Honorable mention(not Bourbon): Crown Royal

GadgetFreak Mar 18, 2014 8:11 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 22541234)
To be fair, the day-glo red cherries that one buys at the store labelled "maraschino cherries" are NOT real maraschino cherries. Real maraschino cherries are Marasca cherries preserved in maraschino liqueur, which is a liqueur made from Marasca cherries. Marasca cherries are only grown on the Dalmatian coast, IIRC.

The imitation "maraschino cherries" you buy in the store are other varieties of cherry preserved in a soup of chemicals and sugar.

The dark cherries you get in drinks at bars that take their cocktails seriously are probably not maraschino cherries (since marasca cherries are pretty rare) but are another variety of cherry soaked in booze (could even be maraschino liqueur - I think Luxardo is the most widely available brand).

There are some places in Manhattan that make their own marinated cherries. The bar at Boulud Sud had some wonderful ones for instance.

bmrisko Mar 18, 2014 9:06 am

I prefer Blanton's and Basil Hayden...Jack Daniel's Single Barrel is also another one of my favorites, though technically not really a bourbon.

zipo Mar 19, 2014 1:19 pm

I'm def a scotch guy. But if I have to give a pass on a bourbon it's woodford.
Best bourbon I've tasted

thelark Mar 19, 2014 2:19 pm

George T Stagg

drwilliams Mar 19, 2014 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by zipo (Post 22552818)
I'm def a scotch guy. But if I have to give a pass on a bourbon it's woodford.
Best bourbon I've tasted

If you are the type of Scotch drinker who likes Macallan type products, I recommend Basil Hayden. Sort of the Bourbon for the Scotch drinker, IMO.

Tripdiculous Mar 19, 2014 5:13 pm

In my limited experience with bourbon, ill add to the Eagle Rare party. Buffalo trace was pretty good as well. I also prefer a Makers when i dont want to take the hit to my wallet.

brendog Mar 19, 2014 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by diabolicNYC (Post 22543876)
Best: 23 year old Pappy Van Winkle(if you can find it)
Smoothest: Basil Hayden
Honorable mention(not Bourbon): Crown Royal

Local liquor store called, my bottle of Pappy 23 has arrived, and none too soon, as my current bottle is about done. Otherwise, my daily bourbon is either Buffalo Trace or Basil when I'm slumming it.

whackyjacky Mar 19, 2014 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by brendog (Post 22555150)
Local liquor store called, my bottle of Pappy 23 has arrived, and none too soon, as my current bottle is about done. Otherwise, my daily bourbon is either Buffalo Trace or Basil when I'm slumming it.

The 23 is great no doubt, but it cost TWICE as much as the 20. That's why it's usually available and the 20 isn't.

DetailsIM Mar 22, 2014 7:13 pm

Was previously on a Basil Hayden kick but now I am on an Eagle Rare kick.

Local store just got some Pappy 15 in. The price is $700. Thanks, I'll wait till next year when a new batch is released. When pappy was readily available they would sell the 23 for $200.

whackyjacky Mar 22, 2014 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 22570739)
Was previously on a Basil Hayden kick but now I am on an Eagle Rare kick.

Local store just got some Pappy 15 in. The price is $700. Thanks, I'll wait till next year when a new batch is released. When pappy was readily available they would sell the 23 for $200.

And the 20 was 90-something $$ wholesale 3 years ago. Here's one explanation: http://fredminnick.com/whos-blame-60...py-van-winkle/

stimpy Mar 23, 2014 3:43 am


Originally Posted by Tripdiculous (Post 22554170)
In my limited experience with bourbon, ill add to the Eagle Rare party. Buffalo trace was pretty good as well. I also prefer a Makers when i dont want to take the hit to my wallet.

They are now serving Buffalo Trace in the lounge at the IC London - Westminster. ^ Help yourself.

tentseller Mar 23, 2014 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 22571850)
They are now serving Buffalo Trace in the lounge at the IC London - Westminster. ^ Help yourself.

Who would have thought of all places.
Thanks for the tip to go back to IC to "freshen up" before heading out to eat after workday. I will leave some for others in two weeks time! :D
But I did have a Pappy 23 at the HK American Club last week.


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