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FlyingDoctorwu Dec 23, 2014 9:20 am

Best & worst Bourbon?
 
AH hirsch 16 yo is delicious. I'm fortunate to have a bottle open and a bottle in reserve. One of the best bourbons ever (look it up). Oh and it's not from Kentucky. Distilled in PA.

Fdw

thelark Dec 23, 2014 9:36 am

Fdw, what are you up to later on this afternoon? I can provide the cigars if you are so inclined :D

whackyjacky Dec 23, 2014 7:25 pm

I had 2 or 3 bottles of Hirsch 20 in my bar a few years back and it was wretched. Most everybody sent it back. It was the only whiskey with age I've ever had that was undrinkable. I'm pretty sure I posted it here a million pages back. Good to hear that they've gotten their sh*t together.

gfunkdave Dec 23, 2014 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by TMOliver (Post 19095981)
Perhaps it's decades of conditioning, but I prefer several of the Tennessee Sour Mashes to even the premium and small batch KY Bourbons. Excluding all of Jack Daniel's bottlings which seem to carry a "sweet" after taste, the Sour Mashes carry both yeasty aroma and flavor, while the small batch bourbons err on the edge of harshness (at least to my palate).

I just tried jack Daniels for the first time the other night. I'm at my mother in law's for Xmas, and it's all she has in the house. It does have a sweet aftertaste...I thought it tasted like what I'd expect from a bottle labeled simply "whiskey". There's not much to it.

FlyingDoctorwu Dec 24, 2014 12:08 am


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 24042026)
Fdw, what are you up to later on this afternoon? I can provide the cigars if you are so inclined :D

Unfortunately I was working.. maybe we should have a little mini Baltimore whiskey DO. I know LM225 is also a whiskey fan....


Originally Posted by whackyjacky (Post 24044774)
I had 2 or 3 bottles of Hirsch 20 in my bar a few years back and it was wretched. Most everybody sent it back. It was the only whiskey with age I've ever had that was undrinkable. I'm pretty sure I posted it here a million pages back. Good to hear that they've gotten their sh*t together.

The Hirsch 20 is nothing like the AH Hirsch 16. They are two completely different products. AH Hirsch 16 was last distilled in 1974 at the old Michters Distillery in PA. Todays Hirsch and todays Michters are in no way related to the old stuff. I know it's confusing but think of it as the old Pan Am related to the attempted revivals over the years. There's an excellent book by CHuck Cowdery which does a solid job exploring the history of this amazing product...

FDW

DetailsIM Dec 24, 2014 8:50 am


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 23763055)
Yeah, at Fairgrounds. I don't think any stores in the area are putting BTAC or Pappy on their shelves. I had Amex concierge call around and put me on a bunch of waiting lists, but no luck yet (Pappy is rolling out in MD). Keeping a close eye on PA after they released BTAC via a twitter link.

My local store has a full line up for Pappy but no way am I buying it at these prices.

http://www.empirewine.com/search/?s=pappy

FlyingDoctorwu Dec 24, 2014 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 24046836)
My local store has a full line up for Pappy but no way am I buying it at these prices.

http://www.empirewine.com/search/?s=pappy

Unfortunately you're seeing the effect of the secondary market.. there's a store near here that has pretty much done the same thing. I'm not a huge fan of the markup. But, there will be someone who will buy it. I work with a guy who has way too much money than he knows what to do with it so last year he bought a bottle of the 15, 20, and 23 for $2300....

The rye is the hardest bottle to get right now. The state of PA got 15 bottles total.... I think it's closer to 19 yrs old...

FDW

stimpy Dec 24, 2014 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 24047927)
Unfortunately you're seeing the effect of the secondary market.. there's a store near here that has pretty much done the same thing. I'm not a huge fan of the markup. But, there will be someone who will buy it. I work with a guy who has way too much money than he knows what to do with it so last year he bought a bottle of the 15, 20, and 23 for $2300....

Wow. You could fly business class to London and drink PVW in a number of bars for less than $2300. It's not like a rare Burgundy or aged Champagne that is priced like that anywhere in the world. It's just artificially high in the US. But if you can afford it, why not?

Seat 2A Dec 24, 2014 5:36 pm

I haven't posted on this thread before, so forgive me if I'm a tad redundant.

That said, my favorite bourbon (Assuming we're talking about those in a reasonable price range) is Bookers - of the Jim Beam Small Batch family. For everyday house bourbon - Woodford Reserve - currently on sale here in Alaska's Interior for just 32.00 per bottle.

broadwayblue Dec 24, 2014 8:37 pm

Bookers is good stuff. Have a bottle open at the moment. I also enjoy Rock Hill Farms as one my go to house bourbons.

FlyingDoctorwu Dec 25, 2014 6:03 pm


Originally Posted by Seat 2A (Post 24048828)
I haven't posted on this thread before, so forgive me if I'm a tad redundant.

That said, my favorite bourbon (Assuming we're talking about those in a reasonable price range) is Bookers - of the Jim Beam Small Batch family. For everyday house bourbon - Woodford Reserve - currently on sale here in Alaska's Interior for just 32.00 per bottle.

Thanks for weighing in Seat 2A. Always a big fan of your trip reports. Bookers is great; high proof which I love. If you're ever in Baltimore let me know and I've got a couple of high proof pours that I think you'll enjoy...

FDW

Points Scrounger Dec 29, 2014 6:38 pm

Marketed as "whiskey", but wanted to mention that I bought a 375 ml (half-fifth) bottle of Port Finish (finished in port casks) Wheat Whiskey from Dry Fly distillery of Spokane. Pricey, but I had come into a bit of extra cash, and wanted to try something a bit ... upscale. DAMN - that stuff is smooth!

drwilliams Dec 29, 2014 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 24069953)
Marketed as "whiskey", but wanted to mention that I bought a 375 ml (half-fifth) bottle of Port Finish (finished in port casks) Wheat Whiskey from Dry Fly distillery of Spokane. Pricey, but I had come into a bit of extra cash, and wanted to try something a bit ... upscale. DAMN - that stuff is smooth!

FTR, it is marketed as a whiskey because it is whiskey. Scotch and Bourbon are protected terms, whiskey is not. Dry Fly also makes a bourbon, too.

Points Scrounger Dec 29, 2014 10:03 pm

I didn't see any Dry Fly bourbon amongst the offerings, although they did have an extra-alcohol whiskey (60 proof).

Sweet Willie Dec 30, 2014 8:36 am


Originally Posted by phillygold (Post 22577890)
I have a new favorite! Angels Envy. Bought a bottle last week and enjoyed some on the rocks over the weekend. Very good taste with a smooth, late kick. Definitely a step up from Woodford, Basil or Makers.

I had brought along a bottle of Angels Envy for use after a pheasant hunt a couple of weeks ago. The table had a # of single malts & bourbons our group brought. Angels Envy was the one folks went to for additional drinks. I very much enjoyed it as well.


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