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Originally Posted by tuapekastar
(Post 15923336)
I'm wondering how many US people do the reverse...i.e. refrain from tipping in other cultures in many of the ~200 countries that are not the US, where tipping may be an inappropriate or even offensive practice. I suspect many just can't help themselves and tip regardless. |
Originally Posted by ChinaShrek
(Post 15923661)
This comment made me chuckle. I have traveled to most parts of the world. People will always take free money.
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If I were a server and worked my hardest to provide you with excellent service and then only received a 10% tip from you here in the U.S., I would feel extremely insulted. A good server makes a great percentage on sales as a whole, despite any low percentage tips. Low and zero tips are part of the job. |
Originally Posted by seanthepilot
(Post 15925812)
A good server makes a great percentage on sales as a whole, despite any low percentage tips. Low and zero tips are part of the job.
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Originally Posted by ChinaShrek
(Post 15923661)
This comment made me chuckle. I have traveled to most parts of the world. People will always take free money.
Your experiences are yours, and I wouldn't presume to doubt or deny them. Whilst I have no personal experience of people having denied or being offended by the offer of tips, because I haven't presumed to offer them in places where I know tipping is generally discouraged or considered discourteous (Singapore and Japan come to mind, allowing that you may have successfully tipped someone in either or both), I have certainly read on multiple occasions of people refusing, and being offended by the offer of tips. I think the main point is that in this sort of thread the thrust tends to be, "you're in the US, respect our customs" (and it's a fair point), but little consideration is given to the reverse situation. In many parts of the world, people won't always take free money. ;) |
Originally Posted by ChinaShrek
(Post 15923661)
This comment made me chuckle. I have traveled to most parts of the world. People will always take free money.
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Originally Posted by u2fan
(Post 15930185)
I Japan, they will chase you out the door to give you your money back.
She literally ran out the door after us and pressed the money into our hands, almost as if she would have been in trouble for accepting it. We felt bad that our tip had the reverse effect of what we'd intended but we parted with smiles and our mangled version of xie xie. |
Originally Posted by show_me_the_points
(Post 12948937)
I cant understand why a simple job of serving food has to be complicated by tipping? I can hardly recall any instance where a waiter served food "incorrectly " and did not earn their 15% tip. I am sure you have your horror stories, but these are the exception, not the rule.
Why can't restaurant owners pay waiters a decent hourly wage and pass the cost onto the customer? By the way, I just returned from a month trip to the Far East, where there is no tipping. Much more enjoyable dining experience in my opinion! Receive bill , pay it then leave. No mental arithmetic to determine whether this waiter deserved 12%, 16% or 18.5% tip based on how precisely they served your food. I can't imagine anyone who enjoys doing this! Then you have to constantly worry if the waiter hates you because you only tipped them 13% instead of the usual 15%. All it would take is some big chain restaurant to abolish it and all others would follow suit. Can you imagine the buzz/hype it would create for the first restaurant to do so? |
Originally Posted by jojo55
(Post 15931881)
Simple job of serving food huh? I bet you've never been a server.
There is a reason many teenagers do waiter / waitressing as their first job, because it is pretty simple to get right. |
As the process is so simple, as described by Emma69 who is from the USA, above, it seems there is no need to give tips at all!
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As Emma 69, from the United Kingdom, thinks it is pretty simple, she agrees, wages should be fair, and tips not expected for normal service (as is pretty common in the UK) but left, at a percentage of the customer's choosing (far closer 5-10% than higher) for above and beyond service.
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We have 'peace in our time', hopefully not followed by several years of war over reclining seats!
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The simple way to end it is to go to a service charge, instead of a tip. Of course a service charge is a lot harder to dispute than a tip, but I digress. My bigget server pet peeve is probably the stereotypical server who chats it up with hisher coworkers, doesn't attend to her tables and then gets into a hissy fit for the lower than typical tip. As a person who dines solo a fair bit as well as dining during off hours, it's not uncommon for me to see a 1:1 (or greater) server to table ratio. I tend to avoid peak hours unless I make a reservation, so I'd hope that I could possibly get slightly more attentive/aware service.
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Originally Posted by sent
(Post 15909717)
And then there are the places in NYC that automatically add a tip and still have a line available for you to add your own. My (tipsy) husband started writing on the line at a club we visited last year until I reviewed the check to find they had already added a hefty mandatory tip for serving wine in plastic glasses. I can't remember the name of this crappy establishment, but I definitely make sure to check the receipts of bars and clubs in NYC since they seem eager to take advantage of their drunk patrons.
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Originally Posted by sent
(Post 15943399)
To quote myself, I just had this happen to me again last night! The place is called "Lair" - some bar in the Lower East Side. My husband closed his tab and disappeared with his friends while I sat at the counter and studied the tab...
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