Why are chain restaurants so popular in the US?
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http://www.buffalo-grill.fr/ (In French.)
Granted, it's only one example, so I think your conclusion is right.
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Isn't the UK going this way too, though? In London and perhaps the larger cities, then yes, you do get the chains, but they are just another option among many. For the rest of the country, though, you can expect a selection from Pizza Express, Strada, Ask, La Tasca, Frankie & Benny's, Prezzo, Harry Ramsden's, Old Orleans, Nando's, Aroma, Caffe Uno, Cafe Pasta, Cafe Rouge, Chez Gerard, Loch Fyne, Chiquitos...
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Fair point stut. I think going that way is fair - thanks in large part to those horrible drive up retail parks which seem to have at least one chain - but even taking my hometown in the South there are still more local dining options than chains on the High street.
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It seems to depend on the location, I think. Those with established restaurants seem to keep an independent ethos, whereas those that never had much in the way of eating out (chippy or Berni Inn being the only options for years) seem to be grateful to receive the chains. Where I live has only one chain, the others being entrenched independents. Go down the road to Stevenage, and it's exclusively chains, go across to Cambridge and it's a healthy mix.
One thing is interesting in the UK, though, and that's that there's very little in the way of Indian (or Pakistani/Bangladeshi) chain food (other than Wetherspoons curry night ) - I'm not sure what's behind that, exactly. Italian food, however, is hugely bechained.
One thing is interesting in the UK, though, and that's that there's very little in the way of Indian (or Pakistani/Bangladeshi) chain food (other than Wetherspoons curry night ) - I'm not sure what's behind that, exactly. Italian food, however, is hugely bechained.
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No-one has yet mentioned the property angle. Imagine you are a landlord opening a new building with a restaurant on ground level - would you rather have a blue-chip tenant who you know will pay the rent, or a mom-and-pop operation? Its a no-brainer for a landlord. Equally, buying a lease on an existing property can require a huge lease premium to be paid up front which will be out of reach of most small operators.
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And perhaps I missed it, but has anyone mentioned the sanitary angle? If it's a chain restaurant, people know (or at least believe) they are being held to a certain franchise standard. That may turn some people away from the local places.
I love trying the local stuff. That's one reason I like traveling - trying new places. It's about the only time I can get my husband to try something non-chain or unknown, too - for many of the above reasons. However, we are pretty good about trying new Indian or Chinese places, even new Italian places. Our favorite restaurant in Gainesville is a little locally-owned Italian place called Pomodoro's. Much better than, say, Olive Garden or Carrabas
I love trying the local stuff. That's one reason I like traveling - trying new places. It's about the only time I can get my husband to try something non-chain or unknown, too - for many of the above reasons. However, we are pretty good about trying new Indian or Chinese places, even new Italian places. Our favorite restaurant in Gainesville is a little locally-owned Italian place called Pomodoro's. Much better than, say, Olive Garden or Carrabas
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... go across to Cambridge and it's a healthy mix.
One thing is interesting in the UK, though, and that's that there's very little in the way of Indian (or Pakistani/Bangladeshi) chain food (other than Wetherspoons curry night ) - I'm not sure what's behind that, exactly. Italian food, however, is hugely bechained.
One thing is interesting in the UK, though, and that's that there's very little in the way of Indian (or Pakistani/Bangladeshi) chain food (other than Wetherspoons curry night ) - I'm not sure what's behind that, exactly. Italian food, however, is hugely bechained.
Here in small town Germany many if not most of the restaurants are mom and pop places with the owners living above and the entire family working in the restaurant. You'll sometimes get crap, but once in awhile you find some place really special. One of my favorite steak restaurants in the world just happens to be an hour away and is Polish owned and operated.
I guess there is something to be said for the consistentcy that many of the chains provide. I eat in them when I want something fast while stateside. When I want something better I get on the internet and start doing research.
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Originally Posted by stut
Isn't the UK going this way too, though? In London and perhaps the larger cities, then yes, you do get the chains, but they are just another option among many. For the rest of the country, though, you can expect a selection from Pizza Express, Strada, Ask, La Tasca, Frankie & Benny's, Prezzo, Harry Ramsden's, Old Orleans, Nando's, Aroma, Caffe Uno, Cafe Pasta, Cafe Rouge, Chez Gerard, Loch Fyne, Chiquitos...
UK v USA
I don't think Europeans (or Australians) are any more "adventurous" outside of big cities than Americans (drive to any Australian country town and I can guarantee the local RSL Club with have a Chinese restaurant with a name like Jade/Lotus/Peacock/Mermaid Garden), but IME in Europe decent food can be had in non-chains for cheaper than chain prices whereas in the US the reverse tends to be true. Also portion sizes don't tend to be as important in many European countries.
I also think chains, in the UK at least, do a very good job of hiding the fact they are a chain. Sort of like this v this.
Originally Posted by stut
One thing is interesting in the UK, though, and that's that there's very little in the way of Indian (or Pakistani/Bangladeshi) chain food (other than Wetherspoons curry night ) - I'm not sure what's behind that, exactly. Italian food, however, is hugely bechained.
Originally Posted by lancebanyon
One of my favorite steak restaurants in the world just happens to be an hour away and is Polish owned and operated.
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I think there's definitely something in what Swanhunter says. There are some 'brands' that are spreading through the country (Mumtaz, Café Naz, Tiffinbites, Masala Zone) but most of the chains that exist tend to be local operations where a successful, independent place manages to expand to a couple of neighbouring towns.
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Within 50 miles from home, I rarely eat at a sit down chain, the exceptions being 3-4x/year at Cheesecake Factory with my parents, and once or twice a year at Capital Grille and/or McCormick and Schmick's. And those are all chains where I would eat on the road as well, if I had a taste for that particular style of food.
For work travel, in places where I go infrequently or it's a smaler town, I'll settle for an Outback or Ruby Tuesday. For one dinner, the ROI on the time investment of finding a local place and having the local place actually be better is not worth it. Let's face it, a grilled chicken sandwich and an order of french fries is not that much different from Ruby Tuesday or the local diner. Add in the risk of the diner not moving their inventory fast enough, and Ruby Tuesday is fine.
But if it's a city where I'll be returning multiple times over the course of a couple of years, or one of the ten largest cities, I'll find something local.
For work travel, in places where I go infrequently or it's a smaler town, I'll settle for an Outback or Ruby Tuesday. For one dinner, the ROI on the time investment of finding a local place and having the local place actually be better is not worth it. Let's face it, a grilled chicken sandwich and an order of french fries is not that much different from Ruby Tuesday or the local diner. Add in the risk of the diner not moving their inventory fast enough, and Ruby Tuesday is fine.
But if it's a city where I'll be returning multiple times over the course of a couple of years, or one of the ten largest cities, I'll find something local.
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I agree with the poster who said that not all dining has to be an experience. In our household eating out is often a spur of the moment thing. I don't need it to be complicated too. We have several non-chain local restaurants, almost all ethnic, that we frequent when we are in the mood.
Another factor is that for some of the nicer places there is some planning involved. I need to dress accordingly and probably need reservations too.
Some of the best places that I have eaten are little places that only the locals know. The locals would prefer that it stays that way.
Another factor is that for some of the nicer places there is some planning involved. I need to dress accordingly and probably need reservations too.
Some of the best places that I have eaten are little places that only the locals know. The locals would prefer that it stays that way.