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martin33 Aug 27, 2009 5:18 pm
Originally Posted by raehl311 (Post 12278840)
I have a half-finished (well,maybe 80% finished) FF Program benefits comparison chart, but nothing about E+ seating... fill me in?
one more minor benefit for your list. As of Sept 1st, AA is offering any EXP left sitting in coach one free alcoholic drink and one free pre-packaged snack item on flights with buy-on-board catering in coach. They already offer this on the regional flights (American Eagle) that have a service.

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Originally Posted by martin33
Originally Posted by raehl311 (Post 12278840)
I have a half-finished (well,maybe 80% finished) FF Program benefits comparison chart, but nothing about E+ seating... fill me in?
one more minor benefit for your list. As of Sept 1st, AA is offering any EXP left sitting in coach one free alcoholic drink and one free pre-packaged snack item on flights with buy-on-board catering in coach. They already offer this on the regional flights (American Eagle) that have a service.
That's a great benefit. Would love to see DL add this to DM's.

thepla Aug 27, 2009 6:27 pm
Originally Posted by ADLFO (Post 12291951)
If DL is still listening, how about extending two free changes to revenue itins per year to PMs and DMs? I'm not talking about waiving a fare difference, just the change fee (ASC) of $150 dom/$250 intnl. To insure that corporate based revenue was protected, maybe even only allow such changes to itins that have a Sat. night stay and additionally only allow changes to the day before/day after/same day as originally ticketed. Most of the time, I can do these same changes through SDC or SDS so I'm thinking this would be an inexpensive bennie. However, it would provide peace of mind for two times per year when I don't feel like taking my chances with SDC/SDS. Your thoughts?
I am one of the people that believes there should be a penalty for changing a ticket. I remember when it was $50, than $75 for a short,time $100, etc. Since I am buying a ticker that is not refundable I should pay the coffer to change.

Now do I think $150 is starting to be the typical we don't want to be in the airplane business but the fee business, of course.

thepla Aug 27, 2009 6:30 pm
Originally Posted by martin33 (Post 12293341)
one more minor benefit for your list. As of Sept 1st, AA is offering any EXP left sitting in coach one free alcoholic drink and one free pre-packaged snack item on flights with buy-on-board catering in coach. They already offer this on the regional flights (American Eagle) that have a service.
So AA gives a better meal for for free while sitting in coach than DL gives for free sitting in FC.

ADLFO Aug 27, 2009 7:35 pm
Originally Posted by thepla (Post 12293606)
I am one of the people that believes there should be a penalty for changing a ticket. I remember when it was $50, than $75 for a short,time $100, etc. Since I am buying a ticker that is not refundable I should pay the coffer to change.

Now do I think $150 is starting to be the typical we don't want to be in the airplane business but the fee business, of course.
I think we agree more than we disagree. I could certainly applaud a flat $75 for the first PNR change if PM or DM and then a greater amount after that. I also agree that $150/$250 is getting to the point of usurious.

WBurcham Aug 27, 2009 8:08 pm
HECK, I'd love to be able to use my drink coupons on BOB! For a $7 drink I can't even get a $4 thing of M&M's (though maybe I could use some logic with the FA after BOB is done and get 'em to take the "cash" from a drink and use it for the bob & v/v).

Actually free drink in Y and/or food would be great. It actually makes me kind of want to get elite status on AA (thinking of switching some flying their way...)

DLATL777 Aug 27, 2009 8:10 pm
Originally Posted by WBurcham (Post 12293943)
HECK, I'd love to be able to use my drink coupons on BOB! For a $7 drink I can't even get a $4 thing of M&M's)
Trade with the passenger next to you :D

avidflyer Aug 27, 2009 8:13 pm
Originally Posted by WBurcham (Post 12293943)
HECK, I'd love to be able to use my drink coupons on BOB! For a $7 drink I can't even get a $4 thing of M&M's (though maybe I could use some logic with the FA after BOB is done and get 'em to take the "cash" from a drink and use it for the bob & v/v).

Actually free drink in Y and/or food would be great. It actually makes me kind of want to get elite status on AA (thinking of switching some flying their way...)
FWIW I have Plat on AA this year thinking I was going to jump before the whole Diamond deal came out. My experience has been great with AA and I will likely keep status with them indefinitely. If you ask they will match you to a lower tier or give you a challenge. Opened my eyes a bit. My good Friend GTITAN is EXP on AA now after many years as a Plat on NW. He has tons of comparative data and experience if you PM him.

avidflyer Aug 27, 2009 8:15 pm
Originally Posted by DLATL777 (Post 12293959)
Trade with the passenger next to you :D
If I am that passenger feel free to throw the offer my way :)

martin33 Aug 28, 2009 1:23 am
Originally Posted by thepla (Post 12293606)
I am one of the people that believes there should be a penalty for changing a ticket. I remember when it was $50, than $75 for a short,time $100, etc. Since I am buying a ticker that is not refundable I should pay the coffer to change.

Now do I think $150 is starting to be the typical we don't want to be in the airplane business but the fee business, of course.
Before $50, it was $35. And before that... It started at $25 (this was 1992), and it was *not* a penalty for changing a non-refundable ticket. The whole reusable ticket system was a repudiation of the previous "penalty" system, where nonrefundable tickets had not been not reusable at all, just refunded 25, 50, or 75 percent. The new $25 fee was a notional cover for the cost of reissuing a paper ticket.

Somewhere along the way, it became all about the revenue generating. It's a whole extra line of business, "selling" changes for $150.

MikeMpls Aug 28, 2009 3:01 am
Originally Posted by martin33 (Post 12294799)
Somewhere along the way, it became all about the revenue generating. It's a whole extra line of business, "selling" changes for $150.
Change fees are one thing that will keep us firmly in the Southwest camp. We haven't even had 6 months of service from WN here (started at MSP March 8) & I've already saved almost $1,800 from not having change fees:

* Just under $900 in refare savings

* Major changes in plans for 3 trips x 2 people. In fact, the ONLY business we've given DL/NW since March 8 have been trips to ATL that were changed w/o penalty from trips to elsewhere on WN. If DL/NW were our airline of choice :rolleyes: we'd have been stuck or fleeced

WBurcham Aug 28, 2009 7:00 am
Originally Posted by DLATL777 (Post 12293959)
Trade with the passenger next to you :D
doesn't work so well when you are flying in F all the time.

hfly Aug 28, 2009 8:20 am
Mike, different strokes for diferent folks, I fly everywhere on Earth and between many major places in the US, I believe that in the last decade I have flown a grand total of two routes that Southwest flies.

fti Aug 28, 2009 8:33 am
Originally Posted by hfly (Post 12295765)
Mike, different strokes for diferent (sic) folks, I fly everywhere on Earth and between many major places in the US, I believe that in the last decade I have flown a grand total of two routes that Southwest flies.
:confused:

Mike never said WN is for everyone, never said he uses them to fly internationally, or that they would be right for you. As with any airline choice, it all depends on what fits best for each person.

PMMMDL Aug 28, 2009 8:33 am
Originally Posted by MikeMpls (Post 12294978)
Change fees are one thing that will keep us firmly in the Southwest camp. We haven't even had 6 months of service from WN here (started at MSP March 8) & I've already saved almost $1,800 from not having change fees:

* Just under $900 in refare savings

* Major changes in plans for 3 trips x 2 people. In fact, the ONLY business we've given DL/NW since March 8 have been trips to ATL that were changed w/o penalty from trips to elsewhere on WN. If DL/NW were our airline of choice :rolleyes: we'd have been stuck or fleeced

Wow!! You must change your tickets alot! I can't remember ever paying a change fee on DL, and only once for changing an award ticket, (but that was a redeposit and reissue for a lower milage F redemption price on the same flight 10 years ago).

You should definately stay with WN since your plans change so often.


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