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thepla Aug 28, 2009 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by PMMMDL (Post 12295825)
Wow!! You must change your tickets alot! I can't remember ever paying a change fee on DL, and only once for changing an award ticket, (but that was a redeposit and reissue for a lower milage F redemption price on the same flight 10 years ago).

You should definately stay with WN since your plans change so often.

I think you are the lucky one for awards.

In my case normal paid tickets are rarely changed. I have specific times / dates and normally do not need to make any changes. Sometimes I need to cancel a ticket and I just use it later with the change fee penalty.

For awards, especially international awards, DL (also NW) made it impossible to get the best routing,best times the first time around.

For that I think the $50 charge is not fair for awards actually taken. If DL gave spaces early on than it would be different. It seems to me they play the game of no space so people use more miles or need to make changes. Either way they are devaluing the purpose of spending $$$ for flying on DL. Like I said they do not want to be in the flying business but the fees, selling miles, etc. business. AA does not charge anything to base members for award changes with starting and ending destinations. Change date, time, etc. and do it for free.

In my case they have lost way more revenue by me leaving than gained by $50 fees.

majortom546 Aug 29, 2009 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by MikeyZBT (Post 12297620)
Plus, the attitude thing... I completely disagree. When I get on a plane, I am not looking to be entertained by the flight attendants. Stop telling jokes, stop singing, just stop with the extra talk... Be professional (like Delta Flight Attendants).

I agree. You can't beat Delta Flight Attendants in that aspect.

MikeMpls Aug 29, 2009 5:25 pm

Some of the tackiest performances I've seen and heard have come from Delta crew. They don't do it as often, but when they do, they're a lot cornier.

monitor Aug 29, 2009 11:47 pm

When they did those offbeat announcements on Song, I knew it was the end of Delta for us and we went right over to US. When they got rid of the Song nonsense, back we came.

localady Sep 16, 2009 9:17 pm

Ok.. I'm going to apologize right off of the bat if what I ask is duplicate or is in another thread. At first I thought that I found my answer around page 48 or so of this thread, but now am not sure how this is going to work.. Please bear with me...

So far this year I have about 139K MQM miles and will have 2 or three big trips this year and should end around 150K MQM miles... I'm trying to figure out how carryover miles will work cause from what I'm seeing I'll probably only earn a max 50k or 60k miles for 2010 cause of some cut-backs in travel that we might have.

Since the new program doesn't start till spring 2010, from what I'm reading, If I end 2009 with 150k MQM I'll be PM at the end of 2009, Once the new program gets initiated, I'll get DM for 2010 and have 75K carryover from 2009. Now let's say I get 60 MQM's during 2010, I'll be Diamond in 2011 (75K rollover plus 50K to make 125K) plus I'll have 10K for 2012 status (if I live that long... :eek:.. Do I have it right?

Thanks
Loca

ifette Sep 16, 2009 9:39 pm

If on 12/31/09 you have 150k EQM, you will be DM 3/2010-2/2011 and will start off with 25k EQM on 1/1/2010.

Think of earning DM as getting charged 125k.

localady Sep 16, 2009 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by ifette (Post 12393027)
If on 12/31/09 you have 150k EQM, you will be DM 3/2010-2/2011 and will start off with 25k EQM on 1/1/2010.

Think of earning DM as getting charged 125k.


OK.. that's how I first read it.. Then the more that I read here and Delta's website, I thought that it might be the other way... So if I have 60EQM on 12/31/10 combined with the 25k from 1/1/2010, I'll be PM with 5K left over for the next year...

Such high math just for the chance at a seat in BE... Thanks

martin33 Oct 6, 2009 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by PMMMDL (Post 12154893)
For those who are interested.

I'm booking my annual holiday season flight to Brasil.

AA doesn't have the lowest upgradable fares (N) anywhere close to the days I need, so the lowest upgradable fare is about $1500 to $1800 verses $2200 (M) on DL. DL has Z inventory available and AA has C availability.

Just an example. The difference between eVIPs and PMUs is there, but not necessarily as large as some make it out to be since AA has limited the number of N bucket seats on many destinations

An update: as of today, American's O and Q fares are now upgradable to Business Class, and I fares are now upgradable to First Class. They are treated similar to other AAdvantage upgrades of discount fares: either miles+copay, or SWU/eVIP with no copay. One can now officially strike the term "lowest upgradable fare" from the vocabulary.

Juanefny Oct 6, 2009 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by martin33 (Post 12545119)
An update: as of today, American's O and Q fares are now upgradable to Business Class, and I fares are now upgradable to First Class. They are treated similar to other AAdvantage upgrades of discount fares: either miles+copay, or SWU/eVIP with no copay. One can now officially strike the term "lowest upgradable fare" from the vocabulary.

DL has to do something.... AA is truly making DL's "best in class" argument harder to make.

Clay_C. Oct 6, 2009 6:46 pm

Do we have a definitive answer on whether or not there will still be a status "soft landing" for 2011 and beyond?

3Cforme Oct 6, 2009 6:58 pm


Originally Posted by Juanefny (Post 12547413)
DL has to do something.... AA is truly making DL's "best in class" argument harder to make.

AA's $550 each way co-pay (US-Europe/Asia/SA) can make up a lot of the distance between the lowest fare and a Delta M fare for those who are upgrading with miles, not SWUs/EVIPs.

Clay_C. Oct 6, 2009 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by 3Cforme (Post 12547633)
AA's $550 each way co-pay (US-Europe/Asia/SA) can make up a lot of the distance between the lowest fare and a Delta M fare for those who are upgrading with miles, not SWUs/EVIPs.


Depends on a lot of factors, of course. No question that there are many occasions when a $550 co-pay each way still means a significant savings over an M fare.

Juanefny Oct 6, 2009 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by 3Cforme (Post 12547633)
AA's $550 each way co-pay (US-Europe/Asia/SA) can make up a lot of the distance between the lowest fare and a Delta M fare for those who are upgrading with miles, not SWUs/EVIPs.

Well I'm comparing Diamond vs. Exp.

martin33 Oct 6, 2009 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by 3Cforme (Post 12547633)
AA's $550 each way co-pay (US-Europe/Asia/SA) can make up a lot of the distance between the lowest fare and a Delta M fare for those who are upgrading with miles, not SWUs/EVIPs.

that's certainly true, however:
  1. The $550 version is only on I fares to 3-class First, not discount Economy to Business.
  2. The O&Q fares join the $350 copay class along with the other non-Y/B coach fares.
  3. AA EXP's who reach 125K this year, the Delta DM level, will have up to 12 SWU's with no copay rather than the normal EXP endowment of 8.

thezipper Oct 6, 2009 7:05 pm

They will someday... but then again it will probably be targeted ;)


Originally Posted by Juanefny (Post 12547413)
DL has to do something.... AA is truly making DL's "best in class" argument harder to make.



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