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Old Nov 28, 2018, 12:40 pm
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Minimum connection time at AMS
Note: when determining the airline for MCT purposes, what counts is who markets the flight, not who operates it.

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL: 50 minutes

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL, DL-KL, or DL-DL: 25 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL or KL-DL: 90 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-KL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL or DL-KL: 60 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-DL, DL-KL, or KL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL: anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours--it depends on the flight numbers and the dates. I've posted the raw output below to help you figure out which MCT will apply.
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2040 - FLT 4141
KL-KL II .55 FLT 602 - FLT 597 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II SUP FLT 1230 - FLT 743 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1382 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 902 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1392 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1394 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 758 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 894 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 884 - ALL OPN -29MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 622 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 692 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 724 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 734 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 792 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3823
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3948
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 210 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3822 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3949 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 4102 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 4991 - ALL
KL-KL II .55 FLT 758 - ALL 03DEC18-28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 876 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 878 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 434 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 604 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 606 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 608 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 882 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 884 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.55 FLT 888 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 894 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 896 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 566 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - LIN
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - FCO
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 LIN - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 FCO - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 400 - 1999 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3108 - 3109
KL-KL II .50 FLT 2000 - 2369 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2370 - 2529 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2700 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2823 - 2826 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.45 FLT 2960 - 2999 - FLT 300 - 899
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 3000 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II .40 FLT 3108 - 3109 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 6199 - FLT 2700 - 4999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 400 - 1999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2000 - 2369
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2370 - 2529
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 GRU - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 YVR - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 400 - 1999 - ALL EQP ALL - TRN
ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3096 - 3099 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.40 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.40 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 320 - 329
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759
KL-KL II 2.00 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3152 - 3173
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3646 - 3649
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2823 - 2826 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2960 - 2999 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3100 - 3107 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3178 - 3183 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3646 - 3649 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 EQP ALL - TRN GROUP3 - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 EQP TRN - ALL
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Old Jul 7, 2022, 11:18 am
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I have a different routing tomorrow (WAW-AMS-ATL), but some of the issues at AMS of late impact even transit passengers.
A few days ago DL had an AMS waiver and here is what they are saying in the KLM forum: Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
Your routing is different and less prone to complications, but watch for various alerts. I did and DL was able to make improvements to my connections for tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Xeno
I have a different routing tomorrow (WAW-AMS-ATL), but some of the issues at AMS of late impact even transit passengers.
A few days ago DL had an AMS waiver and here is what they are saying in the KLM forum: Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
Your routing is different and less prone to complications, but watch for various alerts. I did and DL was able to make improvements to my connections for tomorrow.
The issue is mostly security related where passengers are trying to go landside to airside at AMS. The passport control lines going from the Schengen to Non-schengen part of the airport have been a bit longer on some days in the mornings compared to the past, but it's nothing compared to the security queues to get airside.

The only thing that is of concern is the chance of a delay, which have been rather frequent the past few months. Almost all of my flights out of Schiphol have been delayed for one reason over another, but usually delays only increase the probability of making one's flight.
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Originally Posted by physicsdude
The issue is mostly security related where passengers are trying to go landside to airside at AMS. The passport control lines going from the Schengen to Non-schengen part of the airport have been a bit longer on some days in the mornings compared to the past, but it's nothing compared to the security queues to get airside.

The only thing that is of concern is the chance of a delay, which have been rather frequent the past few months. Almost all of my flights out of Schiphol have been delayed for one reason over another, but usually delays only increase the probability of making one's flight.
Undersood, but I know there has been a thread in the DL forum about AMS issues + when I checked arriving flights yesterday into AMS there were several that were delayed. I did not then go on to see what that meant for connections, but today’s report seemed more normal.
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This master thread may be useful https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/75647-minimum-connection-transfer-time-amsterdam-ams-definitive-thread-20.html
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Originally Posted by manacit
Shoot - you're right. I still haven't internalized the whole Brexit thing.
Nothign to do with Brexit.

UK was never in Schengen.even when we were in the EU
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CDG-AMS-IAH on KL
Hi all! We will be flying from CDG to AMS to IAH on KL1234 and KL663. We have 85 minutes to make our connection in AMS.

This is Schengen to non Schengen (US), will we have to go through security in Amsterdam? What about passport control? We will be travelling in J.

After reading about the delays in Amsterdam, I’m worried about our connect time.

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You will not have to go through security at AMS but you will have to go through passport control to exit the Schengen Zone. 85 minutes should be fine unless of course the CDG-AMS flight is delayed.
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thank you!

Originally Posted by LoganFlyer
You will not have to go through security at AMS but you will have to go through passport control to exit the Schengen Zone. 85 minutes should be fine unless of course the CDG-AMS flight is delayed.
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I have a flight later today to Vienna through AMS that I was trying to make changes too. Original flight out of DTW has a 55 minute connection and I was trying to get on the DL162 from MSP-AMS so I don’t have to connect in DTW and there are much better seats available now.

Delta is saying they can’t do it because DL162 would only have a 60 minute connection a time which there system won’t allow them to book.

I’m curious what everyone else’s experience in AMS has been recently with connections? It’s strange my original booking had a 55 minute connection but a few weeks later they now force longer connection times.
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Old Sep 19, 2022, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by tmcbride
I have a flight later today to Vienna through AMS that I was trying to make changes too. Original flight out of DTW has a 55 minute connection and I was trying to get on the DL162 from MSP-AMS so I don’t have to connect in DTW and there are much better seats available now.

Delta is saying they can’t do it because DL162 would only have a 60 minute connection a time which there system won’t allow them to book.

I’m curious what everyone else’s experience in AMS has been recently with connections? It’s strange my original booking had a 55 minute connection but a few weeks later they now force longer connection times.
Delta's overreacting with this. Connections at AMS have been fine for me and I've been connecting at AMS when the whole mess started earlier this summer. A 45 minute connection often became 1 hour to even and hour and a half because departures would get delayed due to other connecting flights coming in late or having trouble with loading bags. The problem with Schiphol during the summer were operational issues, in particular, security queues going from landside to airside. MCT between non-Schengen and Schengen connections is 50 minutes and queues to go between NS and S aren't that long or won't take too long.

Feel free to look at the KLM Mess in AMS or Connecting in AMS threads. There are daily updates by people who are flying or frequently fly through AMS and update the situation.
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Originally Posted by tmcbride
I have a flight later today to Vienna through AMS that I was trying to make changes too. Original flight out of DTW has a 55 minute connection and I was trying to get on the DL162 from MSP-AMS so I don’t have to connect in DTW and there are much better seats available now.

Delta is saying they can’t do it because DL162 would only have a 60 minute connection a time which there system won’t allow them to book.

I’m curious what everyone else’s experience in AMS has been recently with connections? It’s strange my original booking had a 55 minute connection but a few weeks later they now force longer connection times.
The problem is that you can't use same day confirmed/standby on an international itinerary. Barring IROPS, the only way to rebook onto the MSP-AMS flight is to refare and pay the change fee.
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I am flying SEA-AMS-WAW on Tuesday, Oct. 12 (arrival Oct. 13). KLM sent me an email today that they cancelled the AMS-WAW flight (DL9341/ KLM 1365) on Oct. 13. An hour on the phone with Delta got me onto another AMS-WAW flight (DL9623/ KLM 1367), but now I will have a 7 hour 50 minute layover at Schiphol. With almost 8 hours to work with, I was thinking maybe I'd have enough time to go landside and maybe catch a train into the city, maybe have lunch. What would people advise for what time I should get back to Schiphol in light of security/ passport control madness?

If I do stay airside for the entire layover, any suggestions? I am DL Platinum so I do have lounge access . . . I'm very fond of Lounge 52 (the non-Schengen lounge) but have never visited Lounge 25 (the Schengen lounge), but no matter how nice a lounge, spending 8 hours in one is not exactly my idea of a great time.
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https://freetoursbyfoot.com/schiphol...sterdam/#train

If you do go outside the terminal, arrive in the security/passport control area 2 hours prior to your Warsaw flight departure.
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You won't deal with passport control when returning to airport from city trip. Even if you stayed in airport, you clear immigration before WAW flight since Poland is in Schengen area. If you exit and go into town, you'll need to deal with security. However, if you stayed airside, as flight into AMS is from US/CANADA you wouldn't need to reclear security.

Did you not ask for earlier flight? Or is this earliest? If no earlier KLM flights, you can ask KLM at AMS to put you on LOT if there's space.

Remember to file with KLM (not DL) for EC261 compensation.
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I am flying SEA-AMS-WAW on Tuesday, Oct. 12 (arrival Oct. 13). KLM sent me an email today that they cancelled the AMS-WAW flight (DL9341/ KLM 1365) on Oct. 13. An hour on the phone with Delta got me onto another AMS-WAW flight (DL9623/ KLM 1367), but now I will have a 7 hour 50 minute layover at Schiphol. With almost 8 hours to work with, I was thinking maybe I'd have enough time to go landside and maybe catch a train into the city, maybe have lunch. What would people advise for what time I should get back to Schiphol in light of security/ passport control madness?
Almost 8 hours is more than enough to go into the city. You're DL Platinum, so you'll access to SkyPriority security when returning to the airport. That should get you airside in minutes, although I'd suggest not cutting it that close and be at the airport at least an hour prior to gate close, so 75 minutes prior to departure. There is no immigrations at that point, as you're already within the EU Schengen area (you pass immigrations when you exit the airside area after your inbound flight.

You'll need to figure out what to do with your carry-on luggage though. Options are:

1. Lounge 52 (non-schengen lounge) has free lockers. You can drop your bags there after arrival (and maybe take a shower after your overnight flight). However, keep in mind that if you use those lockers, you'll have to go through the non-schengen departures zone to get your bags back. That will add two immigration queues to your return itinerary (exit immigrations to get into non-schengen departures area, and then entry immigrations again as you pass from the non-schengen to the schengen departures area. Those queues are usually no longer than 10 to 15 minutes, but you'll need to add some margin here to be safe, so I'd add at least an hour to the time required to get to your flight if you put your bags there.

2. Use the paid landside lockers. Those are one floor down from Schiphol Plaza, the area where you are as soon as you exit the baggage hall and pass through customs.

3. Check your carry-on for the AMS-WAW part. After you are landside, just follow the signs to Departures 2 and check your bags in the SkyPriority check-in area (counters 9-11). Can't miss. That's also the entry point for security when you get back from the city (go around the check-in area on the right, you'll find the entrance for Priority security just past that check-in area on your left. You probably won't need anything from your carry-on on the short AMS-WAW flight, so this might be the smartest option.

4. Take everything with you into the city. Optionally use a (paid) locker at Amsterdam Centraal train station.

If I do stay airside for the entire layover, any suggestions? I am DL Platinum so I do have lounge access . . . I'm very fond of Lounge 52 (the non-Schengen lounge) but have never visited Lounge 25 (the Schengen lounge), but no matter how nice a lounge, spending 8 hours in one is not exactly my idea of a great time.
If you decide to do that, I'd stay in Lounge 52 as long as possible. You can even rent a small bedroom for a couple of hours, but they are expensive.
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