I have a different routing tomorrow (WAW-AMS-ATL), but some of the issues at AMS of late impact even transit passengers.
A few days ago DL had an AMS waiver and here is what they are saying in the KLM forum: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-...2-onwards.html Your routing is different and less prone to complications, but watch for various alerts. I did and DL was able to make improvements to my connections for tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by Xeno
(Post 34404896)
I have a different routing tomorrow (WAW-AMS-ATL), but some of the issues at AMS of late impact even transit passengers.
A few days ago DL had an AMS waiver and here is what they are saying in the KLM forum: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-...2-onwards.html Your routing is different and less prone to complications, but watch for various alerts. I did and DL was able to make improvements to my connections for tomorrow. The only thing that is of concern is the chance of a delay, which have been rather frequent the past few months. Almost all of my flights out of Schiphol have been delayed for one reason over another, but usually delays only increase the probability of making one's flight. |
Originally Posted by physicsdude
(Post 34404911)
The issue is mostly security related where passengers are trying to go landside to airside at AMS. The passport control lines going from the Schengen to Non-schengen part of the airport have been a bit longer on some days in the mornings compared to the past, but it's nothing compared to the security queues to get airside.
The only thing that is of concern is the chance of a delay, which have been rather frequent the past few months. Almost all of my flights out of Schiphol have been delayed for one reason over another, but usually delays only increase the probability of making one's flight. |
This master thread may be useful https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/75647-minimum-connection-transfer-time-amsterdam-ams-definitive-thread-20.html
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Originally Posted by manacit
(Post 34404717)
Shoot - you're right. I still haven't internalized the whole Brexit thing.
UK was never in Schengen.even when we were in the EU |
CDG-AMS-IAH on KL
Hi all! We will be flying from CDG to AMS to IAH on KL1234 and KL663. We have 85 minutes to make our connection in AMS.
This is Schengen to non Schengen (US), will we have to go through security in Amsterdam? What about passport control? We will be travelling in J. After reading about the delays in Amsterdam, I’m worried about our connect time. thank you; Kelly |
You will not have to go through security at AMS but you will have to go through passport control to exit the Schengen Zone. 85 minutes should be fine unless of course the CDG-AMS flight is delayed.
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thank you!
Originally Posted by LoganFlyer
(Post 34410633)
You will not have to go through security at AMS but you will have to go through passport control to exit the Schengen Zone. 85 minutes should be fine unless of course the CDG-AMS flight is delayed.
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I have a flight later today to Vienna through AMS that I was trying to make changes too. Original flight out of DTW has a 55 minute connection and I was trying to get on the DL162 from MSP-AMS so I don’t have to connect in DTW and there are much better seats available now.
Delta is saying they can’t do it because DL162 would only have a 60 minute connection a time which there system won’t allow them to book. I’m curious what everyone else’s experience in AMS has been recently with connections? It’s strange my original booking had a 55 minute connection but a few weeks later they now force longer connection times. |
Originally Posted by tmcbride
(Post 34612246)
I have a flight later today to Vienna through AMS that I was trying to make changes too. Original flight out of DTW has a 55 minute connection and I was trying to get on the DL162 from MSP-AMS so I don’t have to connect in DTW and there are much better seats available now.
Delta is saying they can’t do it because DL162 would only have a 60 minute connection a time which there system won’t allow them to book. I’m curious what everyone else’s experience in AMS has been recently with connections? It’s strange my original booking had a 55 minute connection but a few weeks later they now force longer connection times. Feel free to look at the KLM Mess in AMS or Connecting in AMS threads. There are daily updates by people who are flying or frequently fly through AMS and update the situation. |
Originally Posted by tmcbride
(Post 34612246)
I have a flight later today to Vienna through AMS that I was trying to make changes too. Original flight out of DTW has a 55 minute connection and I was trying to get on the DL162 from MSP-AMS so I don’t have to connect in DTW and there are much better seats available now.
Delta is saying they can’t do it because DL162 would only have a 60 minute connection a time which there system won’t allow them to book. I’m curious what everyone else’s experience in AMS has been recently with connections? It’s strange my original booking had a 55 minute connection but a few weeks later they now force longer connection times. |
I am flying SEA-AMS-WAW on Tuesday, Oct. 12 (arrival Oct. 13). KLM sent me an email today that they cancelled the AMS-WAW flight (DL9341/ KLM 1365) on Oct. 13. An hour on the phone with Delta got me onto another AMS-WAW flight (DL9623/ KLM 1367), but now I will have a 7 hour 50 minute layover at Schiphol. With almost 8 hours to work with, I was thinking maybe I'd have enough time to go landside and maybe catch a train into the city, maybe have lunch. What would people advise for what time I should get back to Schiphol in light of security/ passport control madness?
If I do stay airside for the entire layover, any suggestions? I am DL Platinum so I do have lounge access . . . I'm very fond of Lounge 52 (the non-Schengen lounge) but have never visited Lounge 25 (the Schengen lounge), but no matter how nice a lounge, spending 8 hours in one is not exactly my idea of a great time. |
https://freetoursbyfoot.com/schiphol...sterdam/#train
If you do go outside the terminal, arrive in the security/passport control area 2 hours prior to your Warsaw flight departure. |
You won't deal with passport control when returning to airport from city trip. Even if you stayed in airport, you clear immigration before WAW flight since Poland is in Schengen area. If you exit and go into town, you'll need to deal with security. However, if you stayed airside, as flight into AMS is from US/CANADA you wouldn't need to reclear security.
Did you not ask for earlier flight? Or is this earliest? If no earlier KLM flights, you can ask KLM at AMS to put you on LOT if there's space. Remember to file with KLM (not DL) for EC261 compensation. |
Originally Posted by andrewk829
(Post 34665692)
I am flying SEA-AMS-WAW on Tuesday, Oct. 12 (arrival Oct. 13). KLM sent me an email today that they cancelled the AMS-WAW flight (DL9341/ KLM 1365) on Oct. 13. An hour on the phone with Delta got me onto another AMS-WAW flight (DL9623/ KLM 1367), but now I will have a 7 hour 50 minute layover at Schiphol. With almost 8 hours to work with, I was thinking maybe I'd have enough time to go landside and maybe catch a train into the city, maybe have lunch. What would people advise for what time I should get back to Schiphol in light of security/ passport control madness?
You'll need to figure out what to do with your carry-on luggage though. Options are: 1. Lounge 52 (non-schengen lounge) has free lockers. You can drop your bags there after arrival (and maybe take a shower after your overnight flight). However, keep in mind that if you use those lockers, you'll have to go through the non-schengen departures zone to get your bags back. That will add two immigration queues to your return itinerary (exit immigrations to get into non-schengen departures area, and then entry immigrations again as you pass from the non-schengen to the schengen departures area. Those queues are usually no longer than 10 to 15 minutes, but you'll need to add some margin here to be safe, so I'd add at least an hour to the time required to get to your flight if you put your bags there. 2. Use the paid landside lockers. Those are one floor down from Schiphol Plaza, the area where you are as soon as you exit the baggage hall and pass through customs. 3. Check your carry-on for the AMS-WAW part. After you are landside, just follow the signs to Departures 2 and check your bags in the SkyPriority check-in area (counters 9-11). Can't miss. That's also the entry point for security when you get back from the city (go around the check-in area on the right, you'll find the entrance for Priority security just past that check-in area on your left. You probably won't need anything from your carry-on on the short AMS-WAW flight, so this might be the smartest option. 4. Take everything with you into the city. Optionally use a (paid) locker at Amsterdam Centraal train station. If I do stay airside for the entire layover, any suggestions? I am DL Platinum so I do have lounge access . . . I'm very fond of Lounge 52 (the non-Schengen lounge) but have never visited Lounge 25 (the Schengen lounge), but no matter how nice a lounge, spending 8 hours in one is not exactly my idea of a great time. |
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