SDQBound

T4 immigration has a line for short Connections, so OP will receive an orange card before entering the immigration hall. I have arrived at OP's arrival time before and have seen the short Connection cards being given away. However, for earlier flights (usually for arrivals before noon) they don't have the line open.

flyerCO

However the OP doesn't have a connection. He has two separate tickets. He might get one, he might not. Even with short-connection line it can be awhile for non-citizens.

STelite

Thanks for all your feedback!

I think if CI is able to through check me in and I get my bags tagged all the way through (yes I am aware that i have to reclaim luggage) and boarding passes in hand I should be okay

had a similar situation as mentioned with BR->UA and it worked out well

bennos

This is a distinction that I think will be lost on the people who give out the cards.

"Hi, my next flight is in 90 minutes."

"Here's a card."

SDQBound

The next flight doesn't have to be on the same ticket, or even on the same airline.

flyerCO

having GE I'VE never had to worry about tight connections at JFK. I was figuring this was something the airline itself gave out.

tentseller

As someone who did DL 4072 many times connecting from DL TPAC; just the facts:

1. Would CI, who only have one daily flight in and out of JFK have any rep to meet you or quick connection card to give out like BR who has a larger operation in LAX?
2. One hour or more wait for CBP processing as US aliens is common at JFK due to the lineup, number of aliens who needs to be process and all the steps involved.
3. After exiting custom there is a TSA inspection (Sky-Priority would help here). It is then a 10 minute walk to SkyClub and then another 10 to the YYZ departure gate in the high B's. This has been my experience and I am a fast walker.
4. DL 4072 is not only the last DL flight from JFK to YYZ it is the last scheduled flight by any carrier. Missing this you will need to overnight at JFK on your own.

mire101

We are flying back from BCN to SEA on 2/20 (Presidents Day). Our original itinerary was:
I just received a change of flight schedule notice from Delta, switching our domestic connection to:
But I see that Delta now has the following new flight between JFK-SEA:
Would connection from DL477 to DL2853 with 1 hour 06 minutes of formal connection time be considered a legal connection?

Also on a tangently related topic, I have GE interview on 1/26 and leaves to BCN on 2/11. Would I get GE status before I leave the U.S.? I'd think both of us having GE would help speed up immigration at JFK but wasn't sure if even that would help make that 1-hour connection at JFK.

Thanks for any feedback!

monitor

Stay on the latest of the three. One hour and six minutes international to domestic can go wrong in myriad ways.

BTW, using the GE at JFK T4 is not that big of a deal since there are plenty of electronic kiosks for US citizens and that processing is just about as fast as it is for GE.

Zorak

I forget how long it takes for the physical card to arrive but assuming no issues at the interview you should have the email approval by then (possibly even before you get to your car) at which point you can add your KTN to your reservation (you don't need the card when returning to the US by air).

However I agree with the previous reply -- even with GE I wouldn't try the 1h06m connection.

mire101

*sigh* I know you guys are right - 95% of me agrees and has already resigned to having 3.5 hour layover at JFK, but 5% of me was hoping that i may have a fighting chance if I could zip through Immigration electronically and run through the terminal. Thank you for the feedback nonetheless.

tentseller

Let's look at the facts:

Your walk from arrival gate to CBP would be 15 minute, 10 if you are fast and you get the lowest B Int'l gates.
Even with kiosk, app or GE the wait for an officer could take over 5 minutes.
From custom exit to TSA is a five minute.
TSA??? Do you have priority? TSA-pre?
From TSA exit to your B departure gate is another 10 minutes minimum if it is in the low 20's, 25 minute to the higher end.

miraclebear2003

We went DL I-D in May and it was much quicker than I expected. We never got around to getting GE (still haven't) but everything went smoothly. I don't remember the exact time, but I think we spent more time walking than standing in line. Got those cards for precheck so that helped.

Still 66 minutes is too close unless you have a backup flight. We had 3 hours to be comfortable with the transit and got to go to the Skyclub.

We're going through DTW next month and if we miss the flight there is a later one to MCO. However, with a schedule change we now have 2hr 15min so I expect to make it.

Zorak

Additional info: I went back and looked at notes from a trip last year where I had a scheduled 1h15m layover. We landed on time, and I was at my connecting gate with 30 minutes before *boarding*. Bear in mind though:

- it was the evening of Thanksgiving Day, so things were pretty light
- I have GE
- there was basically no line at PreCheck to reclear security
- my walking speed is firmly in the right of the bell curve
- I was going T4-T4, whereas a JFK-SEA flight numbered 2xxx will most likely leave from T2

What cabin are you booked in and/or are you STE+? There are worse places than the T4 Sky Club to spend 2 hours

bennos

If everything goes smoothly (GE or mobile passport, no checked bags, TSA Pre-√) a 1:06 transfer time is totally plausible, even if you have to connect to T2.

Put another way, if you try it and fail you'll mostly likely end up on the later flight anyway (assuming it's not sold out). Alternately, if you book the later connection and can get to the earlier flight quickly enough, you might be able to standby onto it, though likely with crappy seats.

But I'd definitely suggest high risk tolerance for such a short connection.