2024 Upgrade Success (or Lack Thereof)
#17
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: IND
Programs: Delta SkyMiles (DM), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium, LTP)
Posts: 550
Okay, so:
08 Jan 2024:
IND - LAX: 1 FC available at check-in; not upgraded
LAX - SFO: 0 FC available at check-in
13 Jan 2024:
LAX - DTW: 0 FC available at check-in
DTW - IND: 0 FC available at check-in
17 Jan 2024:
IND - LGA: FC upgrade @ 120H
LGA - DFW: FC upgrade @ 120H
21 Jan 2024:
DFW - ATL: [TBD] (14 FC available)
ATL - IND: [TBD] (3 FC available)
08 Jan 2024:
IND - LAX: 1 FC available at check-in; not upgraded
LAX - SFO: 0 FC available at check-in
13 Jan 2024:
LAX - DTW: 0 FC available at check-in
DTW - IND: 0 FC available at check-in
17 Jan 2024:
IND - LGA: FC upgrade @ 120H
LGA - DFW: FC upgrade @ 120H
21 Jan 2024:
DFW - ATL: [TBD] (14 FC available)
ATL - IND: [TBD] (3 FC available)
#18
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West of CLE
Programs: Delta DM/3 MM; Hertz PC; National EE; Amtrak GR; Bonvoy Silver; Via Rail Prfrence
Posts: 5,388
I was able to use my last two 2023 RUCs on an open jaw trip, CLE-DTW-SEA and then SMF-ATL-CLE. On the DTW-SEA there was a 25 person list for 0 UGs but the person next to me was a no show, and the crack staff at DTW didn't bother to fish a person on the list out of the back and into the empty seat.
I had booked a roomette on the Amtrak Coast Starlight to get from Seattle to Sacramento, but Amtrak sent me an e-mail which I received about an hour out of SEA that the train was canceled and was going to be cancelled for the next few days. I promply booked a seat on a SkyWest E175 for early Friday morning. I immediately got C+ but there was only 1 F empty. When I got to SEA on Friday morning for the flight, a second F empty was available, but I was #4 out of 12. The good news was that th person sitting next to me was UG'd and the SEA gate agents didn't fill that seat; it turned out to be the only empty seat on the flight.
I had booked a roomette on the Amtrak Coast Starlight to get from Seattle to Sacramento, but Amtrak sent me an e-mail which I received about an hour out of SEA that the train was canceled and was going to be cancelled for the next few days. I promply booked a seat on a SkyWest E175 for early Friday morning. I immediately got C+ but there was only 1 F empty. When I got to SEA on Friday morning for the flight, a second F empty was available, but I was #4 out of 12. The good news was that th person sitting next to me was UG'd and the SEA gate agents didn't fill that seat; it turned out to be the only empty seat on the flight.
#19
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC, MSY
Programs: DL DM, 1.5MM, NEXUS, Sky Club Lifetime, Admirals Club Lifetime, LowValueCustomer everywhere
Posts: 6,454
DM, 1MM, Reserve Card.
1/17 MSY-LGA V fare cleared to C+ at booking and OU (F) at T-5. There were 18 F of 20 available at T-5
1/20 LGA-MSY V fare cleared to C+ at booking and OU (F) at T-5. There were 20 F of 20 available at T-5
1/17 MSY-LGA V fare cleared to C+ at booking and OU (F) at T-5. There were 18 F of 20 available at T-5
1/20 LGA-MSY V fare cleared to C+ at booking and OU (F) at T-5. There were 20 F of 20 available at T-5
#20
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: DL, UA, AA
Posts: 1,996
I was able to use my last two 2023 RUCs on an open jaw trip, CLE-DTW-SEA and then SMF-ATL-CLE. On the DTW-SEA there was a 25 person list for 0 UGs but the person next to me was a no show, and the crack staff at DTW didn't bother to fish a person on the list out of the back and into the empty seat.
I had booked a roomette on the Amtrak Coast Starlight to get from Seattle to Sacramento, but Amtrak sent me an e-mail which I received about an hour out of SEA that the train was canceled and was going to be cancelled for the next few days. I promply booked a seat on a SkyWest E175 for early Friday morning. I immediately got C+ but there was only 1 F empty. When I got to SEA on Friday morning for the flight, a second F empty was available, but I was #4 out of 12. The good news was that th person sitting next to me was UG'd and the SEA gate agents didn't fill that seat; it turned out to be the only empty seat on the flight.
I had booked a roomette on the Amtrak Coast Starlight to get from Seattle to Sacramento, but Amtrak sent me an e-mail which I received about an hour out of SEA that the train was canceled and was going to be cancelled for the next few days. I promply booked a seat on a SkyWest E175 for early Friday morning. I immediately got C+ but there was only 1 F empty. When I got to SEA on Friday morning for the flight, a second F empty was available, but I was #4 out of 12. The good news was that th person sitting next to me was UG'd and the SEA gate agents didn't fill that seat; it turned out to be the only empty seat on the flight.
#unintentional upgrade
#21
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: IND
Programs: Delta SkyMiles (DM), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium, LTP)
Posts: 550
IRROPS on 13 Jan. SFO - DTW canceled. Rebooked on SFO - ATL - IND. No upgrades available. Didn't even show up on the upgrade list in the app for ATL - IND, so can't even say where I was on the list. (Does this happen to anyone else, especially for IRROPS, where the desk/gate agent can see your name in the upgrade list/upgrade requested, but you don't see your name in the upgrade queue?)
IND - LAX: 1 FC available at check-in; not upgraded
LAX - SFO: 0 FC available at check-in
13 Jan 2024:
SFO - DTW: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: SFO - ATL: 0 FC - but somehow snagged 21A on a 739)
DTW - IND: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: ATL - IND: 0 FC - ended up MC Row 11 on a 73J - my first flight on one of the ex-Lion 737s)
17 Jan 2024:
IND - LGA: FC upgrade @ 120H
LGA - DFW: FC upgrade @ 120H
21 Jan 2024:
DFW - ATL: T-5 FC upgrade (9 of 14 FC upgraded at T-5)
ATL - IND: [TBD] (3 FC available, 0 T-5 upgrades processed)
#22
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Programs: DL DM/2MM
Posts: 1,038
I'm DM, 2MM, no PS section on flight, Reserve card holder, which puts me at least tied for top priority in first 4 tie-breakers with the exception of 360s
18 Jan 2024: ATL-PDX, 8 of 20 available before T-5, 4 available after T-5, 1 available T-2, no love for me.
18 Jan 2024: ATL-PDX, 8 of 20 available before T-5, 4 available after T-5, 1 available T-2, no love for me.
#23
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: Flying Blue, Hilton Honors, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Posts: 2,436
* Any RUC user (those now clear from a separate list... I'd expect longer flights in the back half of January to get a lot of expiring RUCs)
* Any DM who bought a Comfort+ ticket (including awards)
* Any DM with at least one more lifetime mile than you
#24
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Programs: DL DM/2MM
Posts: 1,038
Setting aside the time travel, DM 2MM with Reserve who bought Main would be behind:
* Any RUC user (those now clear from a separate list... I'd expect longer flights in the back half of January to get a lot of expiring RUCs)
* Any DM who bought a Comfort+ ticket (including awards)
* Any DM with at least one more lifetime mile than you
* Any RUC user (those now clear from a separate list... I'd expect longer flights in the back half of January to get a lot of expiring RUCs)
* Any DM who bought a Comfort+ ticket (including awards)
* Any DM with at least one more lifetime mile than you
There is more evidence that DL considers Comfort Plus as part of the main cabin than there is that it is its own cabin. Nevertheless, I purchased C+ for the return trip to see if it makes any difference.
The DL website states: "Members that have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status." Read literally, this means that that this is a yes/no criteria, not a number of miles or even tiered (1MM, 2MM, etc.) criterion. But if you're right, then the rest of the tie-breakers don't matter for MMs, and I doubt that's what DL intends.
#25
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: DL PM, AA PPro, HHonors Gold, Hertz President's Circle, Enterprise Silver
Posts: 200
I agree with the first bullet, and I suspect the other two are not true, though neither of us can be absolutely certain.
There is more evidence that DL considers Comfort Plus as part of the main cabin than there is that it is its own cabin. Nevertheless, I purchased C+ for the return trip to see if it makes any difference.
The DL website states: "Members that have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status." Read literally, this means that that this is a yes/no criteria, not a number of miles or even tiered (1MM, 2MM, etc.) criterion. But if you're right, then the rest of the tie-breakers don't matter for MMs, and I doubt that's what DL intends.
There is more evidence that DL considers Comfort Plus as part of the main cabin than there is that it is its own cabin. Nevertheless, I purchased C+ for the return trip to see if it makes any difference.
The DL website states: "Members that have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status." Read literally, this means that that this is a yes/no criteria, not a number of miles or even tiered (1MM, 2MM, etc.) criterion. But if you're right, then the rest of the tie-breakers don't matter for MMs, and I doubt that's what DL intends.
- "Members at the same Medallion Tier will be cleared in order of cabin purchased for paid tickets, Award Tickets and Pay with Miles1 tickets, where premium cabins hold higher priority.
- Example: 2 customers on the First Class upgrade list are both Gold Medallion Members. The first Member purchased a Delta Comfort+ ticket, while the other Member purchased a Main Cabin ticket. The customer who purchased Comfort+ would be higher on the upgrade list due to purchasing a more premium ticket." (bolding mine)
- "All other things being equal, Members who have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status. For Members who hold Million Miler Status, the Member with the higher number of lifetime flight miles will clear first." (Bolding mine)
#26
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Programs: DL DM/2MM
Posts: 1,038
On their own website, DL does address this (although we know their info is not always right/ up to date lol so don't shoot the messenger here)
- "Members at the same Medallion Tier will be cleared in order of cabin purchased for paid tickets, Award Tickets and Pay with Miles1 tickets, where premium cabins hold higher priority.
- Example: 2 customers on the First Class upgrade list are both Gold Medallion Members. The first Member purchased a Delta Comfort+ ticket, while the other Member purchased a Main Cabin ticket. The customer who purchased Comfort+ would be higher on the upgrade list due to purchasing a more premium ticket." (bolding mine)
- "All other things being equal, Members who have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status. For Members who hold Million Miler Status, the Member with the higher number of lifetime flight miles will clear first." (Bolding mine)
Last edited by safigan; Jan 17, 2024 at 6:33 pm
#27
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: TN
Programs: DL 2MM, AA ExPlat, UA S, HH S, MR LT Titanium, National Exec
Posts: 317
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#28
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: IND
Programs: Delta SkyMiles (DM), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium, LTP)
Posts: 550
08 Jan 2024:
IND - LAX: 1 FC available at check-in; not upgraded
LAX - SFO: 0 FC available at check-in
13 Jan 2024:
SFO - DTW: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: SFO - ATL: 0 FC - but somehow snagged 21A on a 739)
DTW - IND: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: ATL - IND: 0 FC - ended up MC Row 11 on a 73J - my first flight on one of the ex-Lion 737s)
17 Jan 2024:
IND - LGA: FC upgrade @ 120H
LGA - DFW: FC upgrade @ 120H
21 Jan 2024:
DFW - ATL: T-5 FC upgrade (9 of 14 FC upgraded at T-5)
ATL - IND: [TBD] (3 FC available, 0 T-5 upgrades processed)
IND - LAX: 1 FC available at check-in; not upgraded
LAX - SFO: 0 FC available at check-in
13 Jan 2024:
SFO - DTW: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: SFO - ATL: 0 FC - but somehow snagged 21A on a 739)
DTW - IND: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: ATL - IND: 0 FC - ended up MC Row 11 on a 73J - my first flight on one of the ex-Lion 737s)
17 Jan 2024:
IND - LGA: FC upgrade @ 120H
LGA - DFW: FC upgrade @ 120H
21 Jan 2024:
DFW - ATL: T-5 FC upgrade (9 of 14 FC upgraded at T-5)
ATL - IND: [TBD] (3 FC available, 0 T-5 upgrades processed)
IND - LAX: 1 FC available at check-in; not upgraded
LAX - SFO: 0 FC available at check-in
13 Jan 2024:
SFO - DTW: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: SFO - ATL: 0 FC - but somehow snagged 21A on a 739)
DTW - IND: 0 FC available at check-in (IRROPS: ATL - IND: 0 FC - ended up MC Row 11 on a 73J - my first flight on one of the ex-Lion 737s)
17 Jan 2024:
IND - LGA: FC upgrade @ 120H
LGA - DFW: FC upgrade @ 120H
21 Jan 2024:
DFW - ATL: T-5 FC upgrade (9 of 14 FC upgraded at T-5)
ATL - IND: No upgrade (0 FC available, 4 of 47 on the upgrade list. Welcome to ATL.)
#29
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AA EXP2M, DL 1MM DM ext, UA PP <=> HH G/Marr PE/Hyatt G/IHG P FT RA ( Recovering Addict)
Posts: 4,603
#30
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: IND
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Posts: 550