Fare Class No Longer a Factor in Upgrade Priority
#136
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Well, the "old" language is mixed right in with the "new" language FWIW. The "new" language has not been there for over a year.
#137
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Once again, I think it is just sloppy writing, but it is far from clear or definitive.
#138
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Is it really that surprising that they may not have updated all the old language when the added the new language and some of it is not consistent?
#139
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Id guess the number of DLAX cardholders outnumbers MMers (ignoring overlap, for the moment) by at least 50:1.
Normally, I would think from a purely business perspective that DL would prioritize DLAX cardholders above MMers in the UG heirarchy, but there is relatively little practical impact and gobs of loyalty impact by doing it this way, especially once you consider 50% of MMers are probably DLAX holders as well.
I wonder what the drop-rate is for cardholders. I dumped my 4 DLAX cards at the end of the year, opting to make the CSR card my primary.
Normally, I would think from a purely business perspective that DL would prioritize DLAX cardholders above MMers in the UG heirarchy, but there is relatively little practical impact and gobs of loyalty impact by doing it this way, especially once you consider 50% of MMers are probably DLAX holders as well.
I wonder what the drop-rate is for cardholders. I dumped my 4 DLAX cards at the end of the year, opting to make the CSR card my primary.
#141




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Whoops, my bad! It is!
https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...20first.%C2%A0
#142


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I've always wondered this too.. but as far as I can tell (have heard) it seems ALL 1MM and above are treated equally for UG purposes? But I'd love to hear otherwise..
#143




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#144




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Million milers within a given Medallion/purchased cabin group are prioritized in order of lifetime miles. Reserve/corporate flyer and calendar year MQD only come in to break a tie between million milers when they have the same lifetime mile total.
DM 1MM paid C+ comes before
DM paid C+ (Reserve) comes before
DM 3MM bought Main comes before
DM 2MM bought Main (Reserve) comes before
DM bought Main (Reserve, 8k CY MQD) comes before
DM bought Main (10k CY MQD) comes before
DM bought Main (6k CY MQD) comes before
PM 2MM paid C+...
#145
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Million milers within a given Medallion/purchased cabin group are prioritized in order of lifetime miles. Reserve/corporate flyer and calendar year MQD only come in to break a tie between million milers when they have the same lifetime mile total.
DM 1MM paid C+ comes before
DM paid C+ (Reserve) comes before
DM 3MM bought Main comes before
DM 2MM bought Main (Reserve) comes before
DM bought Main (Reserve, 8k CY MQD) comes before
DM bought Main (10k CY MQD) comes before
DM bought Main (6k CY MQD) comes before
PM 2MM paid C+...
Million milers within a given Medallion/purchased cabin group are prioritized in order of lifetime miles. Reserve/corporate flyer and calendar year MQD only come in to break a tie between million milers when they have the same lifetime mile total.
DM 1MM paid C+ comes before
DM paid C+ (Reserve) comes before
DM 3MM bought Main comes before
DM 2MM bought Main (Reserve) comes before
DM bought Main (Reserve, 8k CY MQD) comes before
DM bought Main (10k CY MQD) comes before
DM bought Main (6k CY MQD) comes before
PM 2MM paid C+...
#146



Join Date: Aug 2022
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If only....that specific question had been addressed right on the Medallion Upgrades page on the Delta website!
Whoops, my bad! It is!
https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...20first.%C2%A0
Whoops, my bad! It is!
https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...20first.%C2%A0
All other things being equal, Members who have Million Miler Status will clear before Members that do not hold Million Miler Status. For Members who hold Million Miler Status, the Member with the higher number of lifetime flight miles will clear first.
#147




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If only....that specific question had been addressed right on the Medallion Upgrades page on the Delta website!
Whoops, my bad! It is!
https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...20first.%C2%A0
Whoops, my bad! It is!
https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...20first.%C2%A0
#148
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 6
This is wrong. The actual lifetime miles is not the differentiating factor. It is the threshold. If it gets to this tiebreaker, all 2MM are treated equally. It does not go to the actual mile. 2MM are ahead of 1MM; and 3MM are ahead of 2MM.
-Someone in the know
-Someone in the know
#149



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Thanks for the clarification. That's interesting, though, because the way it is worded doesn't align - at least, it didn't when last I read it. (And since I won't even be 1MM until at least this year, it honestly has next to no impact on me right now.)
#150


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Just spent some time looking through the wording regarding upgrade priority, including the newly-published wording.
In the original published new upgrade priority months ago, it established a clear rank:
Priority 1: Medallion Status
Priority 2: Cabin purchased
Priority 3: Million Miler Status
Priority 4: Delta SkyMiles Reserve American Express Card
etc.
In the original published new upgrade priority months ago, it established a clear rank:
Priority 1: Medallion Status
Priority 2: Cabin purchased
Priority 3: Million Miler Status
Priority 4: Delta SkyMiles Reserve American Express Card
etc.

