I am surprised that there are so many MM, 2MM, 3MM, etc
#31
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Location: MSP
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The DL MM program is extremely generous, so I can't say I am surprised.
I switched to DL in mid-2019 and have flown about 80k BIS since then across all DL earning partners. What surprised me was to learn that I am already 25% of the way to earning 1MM. I spent years with Star Alliance before that doing 80k or more per year and my MM balance on United is less than that!
At that point I finally understood why the DL MM benefits were next to worthless. I suspect MM earning on DL will be far slower in the future with the program changes.
And then of course there are the people who have actually spent multiple decades on planes.
I switched to DL in mid-2019 and have flown about 80k BIS since then across all DL earning partners. What surprised me was to learn that I am already 25% of the way to earning 1MM. I spent years with Star Alliance before that doing 80k or more per year and my MM balance on United is less than that!
At that point I finally understood why the DL MM benefits were next to worthless. I suspect MM earning on DL will be far slower in the future with the program changes.
And then of course there are the people who have actually spent multiple decades on planes.
#32
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Programs: DL 2MM/DM, Hilton LT Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriot Titanium
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I have been on many flights where the FA announced something like this: "We'd like to thank all of our silver, gold, platinum, and diamond Medallions, and especially our one One Million Miler." (emphasis is mine) So I was the only MM on the flight. I also chatted with the FAs on LAX-SYD once who told me that there were eight (8) pax that were million milers of some level on that flight. So the points is that you can't take an extremely small subset of the population and extrapolate any accurate information about how many million milers there are.
#35
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Think there are more than 10 of them?
#36
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West of CLE
Programs: Delta DM/3 MM; Hertz PC; National EE; Amtrak GR; Bonvoy Silver; Via Rail Préférence
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Interestingly, almost all his flying is domestic. I was a bit surprised that Delta never offered him 360 membership. Now he's got it. I'm very happy for him.
#37
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: PHX
Programs: Delta PM, Hilton Diamond
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The MM changes are some real "pull the ladder up behind you" energy. Change my mind.
(To be clear, I'm not mad at MMs for taking advantage of what they're offered, and not really mad at DL either because I see the business sense, just calling it how I see it.)
(To be clear, I'm not mad at MMs for taking advantage of what they're offered, and not really mad at DL either because I see the business sense, just calling it how I see it.)
#38
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: DL PM 1MM
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The only 6MM I have met in the wild was on a SEA-ATL flight a number of years ago. He indicated that he commuted ATL-NRT twice a month, and had been doing so for his entire working life. He looked kind of tired.
It is interesting that the folks fessing up to be xMM here have mostly done it BIS; this is my scenario (at 1.8MM) too, with as far as I remember exclusively main cabin purchases and no credit card boosts. I travelled quite a bit 2010-2020 ish (1.3 or 1.4 MM). I really don't know where my first 1/2 M came from, as I do not remember traveling anywhere near the same extent as I did after 2010; maybe some NW promotions related to Seattle?
It is interesting that the folks fessing up to be xMM here have mostly done it BIS; this is my scenario (at 1.8MM) too, with as far as I remember exclusively main cabin purchases and no credit card boosts. I travelled quite a bit 2010-2020 ish (1.3 or 1.4 MM). I really don't know where my first 1/2 M came from, as I do not remember traveling anywhere near the same extent as I did after 2010; maybe some NW promotions related to Seattle?
#39
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West of CLE
Programs: Delta DM/3 MM; Hertz PC; National EE; Amtrak GR; Bonvoy Silver; Via Rail Préférence
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I have been on many flights where the FA announced something like this: "We'd like to thank all of our silver, gold, platinum, and diamond Medallions, and especially our one One Million Miler." (emphasis is mine) So I was the only MM on the flight. I also chatted with the FAs on LAX-SYD once who told me that there were eight (8) pax that were million milers of some level on that flight. So the points is that you can't take an extremely small subset of the population and extrapolate any accurate information about how many million milers there are.
#40
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I would have rather done that than me getting to 2.5MM without leaving the country.
#41
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Atlanta
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Plus some just fly lots. I flew starting in 2000s. Most of that credited to CO till merger with UA. (NW who I flew most credited to CO as they were close partners- NW owned a chunk of CO) I then started crediting to NW as NNWwas who I flew most anyway. I made 1MM during initial CV19 shutdowns. I've since then (less than 2 years) already gone up to 1.8m MQM. All mine being earned without AMEX boosts.
#42
Join Date: Sep 2008
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In my experience, having been in this game awhile, people always perceive the "good ol' days" as being the days before they were in the game...
Regards
#43
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Washington, DC, Chapel Hill, NC (RDU)
Programs: DL Plat (won't hit DM again) 2MM (2.5), HH Gold, PC Gold, Hyatt Plat
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NW became my airline of choice when I took a job in St Paul in 1997 and I became a MM with the NW/DL merger in 2009. As I recall I had about 800,000 NW miles and 400,000 DL so the merger put me at about 1.2 MM. Hit 2 MM in 2014 and retired in 2017 so a lot less flying now and on my dime. I'm now at about 2.5 MM and the bump to comp Plat is very much appreciated!
One of the ways to build miles for me was AF premium economy tickets (A/S/W). AF had some great PE fares from the US connecting in Paris and on to Asia, return to Paris then to somewhere else in Europe and then back to the US for US$2200-2800 and they carried a 50, maybe 75% mileage premium. I think I did 1 a year for 4 years. Hong Kong and Copenhagen, HCMC and Prague, Japan and Kiev. And I would get op-uped on the CDG-Asia-CDG flights.
One of the ways to build miles for me was AF premium economy tickets (A/S/W). AF had some great PE fares from the US connecting in Paris and on to Asia, return to Paris then to somewhere else in Europe and then back to the US for US$2200-2800 and they carried a 50, maybe 75% mileage premium. I think I did 1 a year for 4 years. Hong Kong and Copenhagen, HCMC and Prague, Japan and Kiev. And I would get op-uped on the CDG-Asia-CDG flights.
#44
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Atlanta
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Well, if by that you mean making it harder, then yes, I suppose that is true. But that is true across pretty much all facets of all travel loyalty programs (including airlines and hotels). The bar keeps (and will keep) getting raised across the board. Whether that is how much you have to spend to earn elite status each year, how many miles an award costs you, how many times you can enter the lounge, or yes, how hard it is to achieve million miler status, the trend, my friend, is towards harder not easier unfortunately.
In my experience, having been in this game awhile, people always perceive the "good ol' days" as being the days before they were in the game...
Regards
In my experience, having been in this game awhile, people always perceive the "good ol' days" as being the days before they were in the game...
Regards
#45
Join Date: Sep 2023
Posts: 177
I wonder. There's likely more than we think. If someone was flying constantly and also spending heavily on their Amex cards for MQMs, and took advantage of some of the promotions (like SEA-Asia triple MQMs), that could build up. I'm at 2.075 MM's at age 60, but likely could have been at 3MM if I'd made the effort. Didn't seem worth it to focus on that, with not even getting PM until 4MM. Seemed like a waste of effort, but if I knew I'd make DM at 3MM, I would have made the effort before I retired.