Government Shutdown & MSP security checkpoint closures
Jan 7, 2019, 9:14 pm
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I do understand people have financial hardships in this situation. But, let's keep this factual. The TSA workers have not missed a paycheck yet. They might, if the shutdown continues through this Friday. Also, no one is working for free. They will eventually be paid for their time even if they miss a paycheck.
Jan 7, 2019, 10:13 pm
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This is kind of on topic but doesn’t effect us consumers, a pilot friend told me today that ATC has been getting a little grumpy over the past few days.
I would imagine that if you live pay check to pay check then it could be pretty stressful, but they will get paid eventually. Maybe they are mad because the non essential government employees are basically getting a paid vacation.
I would imagine that if you live pay check to pay check then it could be pretty stressful, but they will get paid eventually. Maybe they are mad because the non essential government employees are basically getting a paid vacation.
Jan 7, 2019, 10:50 pm
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I do understand people have financial hardships in this situation. But, let's keep this factual. The TSA workers have not missed a paycheck yet. They might, if the shutdown continues through this Friday. Also, no one is working for free. They will eventually be paid for their time even if they miss a paycheck.
The truth is that I hope they receive "liquidated damages" because they are entitled to their pay on the agreed upon schedule. They are due the full protection of the Fair Labor Standards Act
FWIW
Airport screeners may still get their pay on time Friday if the impasse is resolved by midweek, Bilello said.
Two of the sources, who are federal officials, described the sick outs as protests of the paycheck delay. One called it the "blue flu," a reference to the blue shirts worn by transportation security officers who screen passengers and baggage at airport security checkpoints.
https://www.wsmv.com/news/us_world_n...4148ae57b.html
Three shutdowns in one year, I hadn't noticed the continuing resolutions ended on paydays, interesting.
Jan 8, 2019, 5:00 am
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This whole thing is a joke because the workers are stuck in purgatory here since they cant claim unemployment benefits since they are "working" but are not getting paid.
Jan 8, 2019, 5:03 am
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"Blue Flu" is an old term used for Police Officers who call out sick especially in union police departments during re negotiations of employment contracts.
Jan 8, 2019, 8:11 am
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And, whether or not they have "missed" a paycheck yet, it is still very stressful for these employees. Not knowing whether a paycheck is going to arrive isn't going to be fun when you (a) have to show up to work anyway, and (b) have real bills to pay. May this all end soon. It's ridiculous.
Jan 8, 2019, 8:24 am
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I do understand people have financial hardships in this situation. But, let's keep this factual. The TSA workers have not missed a paycheck yet. They might, if the shutdown continues through this Friday. Also, no one is working for free. They will eventually be paid for their time even if they miss a paycheck.
Jan 8, 2019, 8:25 am
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Do we really need an exhaustive accounting of facts for my point to be clear? I'm happy to leave it at "financial hardships" given my point is that I hope people understand the current struggles being faced by these "essential employees."
The truth is that I hope they receive "liquidated damages" because they are entitled to their pay on the agreed upon schedule. They are due the full protection of the Fair Labor Standards Act
FWIW
Airport screeners may still get their pay on time Friday if the impasse is resolved by midweek, Bilello said.
I see conflicting reports, but I believe your relative.
Two of the sources, who are federal officials, described the sick outs as protests of the paycheck delay. One called it the "blue flu," a reference to the blue shirts worn by transportation security officers who screen passengers and baggage at airport security checkpoints.
https://www.wsmv.com/news/us_world_n...4148ae57b.html
Three shutdowns in one year, I hadn't noticed the continuing resolutions ended on paydays, interesting.
The truth is that I hope they receive "liquidated damages" because they are entitled to their pay on the agreed upon schedule. They are due the full protection of the Fair Labor Standards Act
FWIW
Airport screeners may still get their pay on time Friday if the impasse is resolved by midweek, Bilello said.
I see conflicting reports, but I believe your relative.
Two of the sources, who are federal officials, described the sick outs as protests of the paycheck delay. One called it the "blue flu," a reference to the blue shirts worn by transportation security officers who screen passengers and baggage at airport security checkpoints.
https://www.wsmv.com/news/us_world_n...4148ae57b.html
Three shutdowns in one year, I hadn't noticed the continuing resolutions ended on paydays, interesting.
Jan 8, 2019, 2:42 pm
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Let me try to return to, or correct upon, the point I was trying to make initially. I regularly see un and under-appreciated people at the airport. I find that the TSA folks are in one of the more thankless positions, at this point in time I encourage us all to extend whatever extra appreciation we can. Someone posted about not being able to find a clear answer about tipping, I think I may bring a few extra boxes of chocolates to the airport with me on Friday, maybe even a few thank you cards.
But yes, I was not trying to bicker, i just felt that some of the details, while confused, were being ignored. The OP is really about how security checkpoints are being impacted, I was OT.
[On a side note: there are actually people working positions at airports who are not only missing paychecks, but they are not eligible for back pay either. I believe some janitors fit into this category.]
Jan 10, 2019, 10:47 pm
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I do understand people have financial hardships in this situation. But, let's keep this factual. The TSA workers have not missed a paycheck yet. They might, if the shutdown continues through this Friday. Also, no one is working for free. They will eventually be paid for their time even if they miss a paycheck.
Jan 12, 2019, 9:18 am
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It's not just TSA airport security that's a mess today. It's also DL and CLEAR.
I waited in line for over a half hour for the SkyPriority check in counter. It's the worst I've ever seen it here. Part of the problem might be that there was no line dragon. I suspect that some of the ones in line were not entitled to use SkyPriority.
Then CLEAR was also busy, although two kiosks seemed to be roped off for new applicants. Instead of being escorted to the front of the SkyPriority, I waited in a line about twelve deep to go through SkyPriority. The person behind me tried to thank the CLEAR guy for working without pay and I had to explain that they're employees of a private company. I guess CLEAR is getting lots of new members.
The regular SkyPriority and PreCheck lines extended down to around the DL special services counter while the regular kettle line for South security went to at least the center of T1. I didn't notice any dogs being used, but I really couldn't see what was happening very well. One impression is that today we only had hundreds standing around instead of thousands standing around.
Traffic around the airport seemed normal, including the curb drop off lanes.
I waited in line for over a half hour for the SkyPriority check in counter. It's the worst I've ever seen it here. Part of the problem might be that there was no line dragon. I suspect that some of the ones in line were not entitled to use SkyPriority.
Then CLEAR was also busy, although two kiosks seemed to be roped off for new applicants. Instead of being escorted to the front of the SkyPriority, I waited in a line about twelve deep to go through SkyPriority. The person behind me tried to thank the CLEAR guy for working without pay and I had to explain that they're employees of a private company. I guess CLEAR is getting lots of new members.
The regular SkyPriority and PreCheck lines extended down to around the DL special services counter while the regular kettle line for South security went to at least the center of T1. I didn't notice any dogs being used, but I really couldn't see what was happening very well. One impression is that today we only had hundreds standing around instead of thousands standing around.
Traffic around the airport seemed normal, including the curb drop off lanes.
Jan 12, 2019, 9:51 am
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Flew MSP this week and I saw nothing different (probably better) maybe ~3 minute wait in Sky Priority to check bag, Clear line to pre check to other side of metal detector was under 2 minutes (south security)