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Old Jan 26, 2019, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by zitsky
Sangria is good for that wine that is not good enough to enjoy with food but too good to pour down the sink.
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper
I never thought about using wine that isn't good enough to drink for that.
Or you could use the $60 bottle of wine to make sangria.
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 6:14 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper
I never thought about using wine that isn't good enough to drink for that.
We'll, you wouldn't want to take fairly decent wine and waste it by turning it into Sangria, would you?

Plus, I've been told that you shouldn't cook with wine that you're not willing to drink, so that leaves Sangria in summer and hot mulled wine in winter, right, as disposal alternatives?
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Yet people traditionally consume hamburgers with beer, and hamburgers are beef (unless they're those awful veggie things).
I've actually had some really good turkey burgers (The one from the True Food Kitchen chain is excellent, IMO) But because they're typically lower fat than beef and can't be left pink in the middle, they're a bit fussy to cook without overcooking one and many restaurants just don't want to bother trying.
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
We'll, you wouldn't want to take fairly decent wine and waste it by turning it into Sangria, would you?

Plus, I've been told that you shouldn't cook with wine that you're not willing to drink, so that leaves Sangria in summer and hot mulled wine in winter, right, as disposal alternatives?
My usual price point for Tinto de Verano and Sangria is $8-10/bottle. Costco has some rather nice Portuguese reds that work quite well - the bottle is good enough that I’d drink the wine on its own as a happy hour pour or something, but affordable and unprecious enough that I don’t mind mixing it. My current favorite for this purpose is Casa Santos Lima’s “Colossal Reserva” at about $8/bottle. Various affordable Washington red blends also fill the role nicely, like Chateau Ste Michelle. We used to use Charles and Charles Post No. 35 for this purpose when it was $6/bottle, but then it got popular and it’s much less of a good deal at its current $10+ price point (plus we feel the quality has slipped). It’s kind of a rotating door for whatever wine fills this gap for us on any given date; there’s a whole thread in DiningBuzz on decent cheap bottles with more ideas.

My take is that most people think sangria and the like are poor quality beverages because they’re always made with lousy wine. Splurge for something vaguely decent and it’s like a whole new drink...

Of course, in Europe 4€ table wine is used, but in Europe 4€ table wine is also perfectly drinkable - not so much the situation here in the States sadly.

Next time you’re in Madrid, I’d encourage you to give Tinto de Verano a chance. Sounds sketchy, but it’s surprisingly delicious made with the proper gaseosa (soda), and if you start watching around you there are a heck of a lot more Spaniards drinking it than sangria, despite the latter’s fame. It’s the perfect beverage for people watching from a cozy patio cafe in the Parque del Buen Retiro...

kalimotxo, maybe that’s a permanent pass though
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by beachmouse
I've actually had some really good turkey burgers (The one from the True Food Kitchen chain is excellent, IMO) But because they're typically lower fat than beef and can't be left pink in the middle, they're a bit fussy to cook without overcooking one and many restaurants just don't want to bother trying.
AS is currently serving a shockingly solid turkey burger onboard on short haul flights (think 600 miles, like SEA-SLC!). It’s uncharacteristically good for them and honestly beats most domestic F meals on DL last year; not over cooked at all, miraculously, although I’m sure the guacamole they serve it with helps lube things up.

Hilarously, AS appears to be using the exact same wood grain curved meal trays DL used to before adopting Alessi. Maybe they got a deal?
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 8:24 pm
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by zitsky
Or you could use the $60 bottle of wine to make sangria.
No, I'd prefer not to use that.
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
We'll, you wouldn't want to take fairly decent wine and waste it by turning it into Sangria, would you?

Plus, I've been told that you shouldn't cook with wine that you're not willing to drink, so that leaves Sangria in summer and hot mulled wine in winter, right, as disposal alternatives?
True
Originally Posted by beachmouse
I've actually had some really good turkey burgers (The one from the True Food Kitchen chain is excellent, IMO) But because they're typically lower fat than beef and can't be left pink in the middle, they're a bit fussy to cook without overcooking one and many restaurants just don't want to bother trying.
I've found turkey burgers tend to not have a lot of flavor.
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My usual price point for Tinto de Verano and Sangria is $8-10/bottle. Costco has some rather nice Portuguese reds that work quite well - the bottle is good enough that I’d drink the wine on its own as a happy hour pour or something, but affordable and unprecious enough that I don’t mind mixing it. My current favorite for this purpose is Casa Santos Lima’s “Colossal Reserva” at about $8/bottle. Various affordable Washington red blends also fill the role nicely, like Chateau Ste Michelle. We used to use Charles and Charles Post No. 35 for this purpose when it was $6/bottle, but then it got popular and it’s much less of a good deal at its current $10+ price point (plus we feel the quality has slipped). It’s kind of a rotating door for whatever wine fills this gap for us on any given date; there’s a whole thread in DiningBuzz on decent cheap bottles with more ideas.

My take is that most people think sangria and the like are poor quality beverages because they’re always made with lousy wine. Splurge for something vaguely decent and it’s like a whole new drink...

Of course, in Europe 4€ table wine is used, but in Europe 4€ table wine is also perfectly drinkable - not so much the situation here in the States sadly.

Next time you’re in Madrid, I’d encourage you to give Tinto de Verano a chance. Sounds sketchy, but it’s surprisingly delicious made with the proper gaseosa (soda), and if you start watching around you there are a heck of a lot more Spaniards drinking it than sangria, despite the latter’s fame. It’s the perfect beverage for people watching from a cozy patio cafe in the Parque del Buen Retiro...

kalimotxo, maybe that’s a permanent pass though
Now I'm going to have to try a bunch of different wines for Sangria.
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 9:14 pm
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I'm torn between going to bed and watching Thor: The Dark World. Do I try to fall asleep while watching Thor?
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper

I've found turkey burgers tend to not have a lot of flavor.
The good one I've had, it's a little salt, a little pepper and a few other spices into the ground turkey to make it work well.
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 9:58 pm
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I'm torn between going to bed and watching Thor: The Dark World. Do I try to fall asleep while watching Thor?
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Old Jan 26, 2019, 10:52 pm
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Originally Posted by kipper
... Now I'm going to have to try a bunch of different wines for Sangria.
and this is a problem why?
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Old Jan 27, 2019, 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by beachmouse
The good one I've had, it's a little salt, a little pepper and a few other spices into the ground turkey to make it work well.
We occasionally have good ones with spinach, nutmeg, granulated garlic, and cheese.
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Originally Posted by jrl767

and this is a problem why?
I didn't say it was a problem.
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Old Jan 27, 2019, 6:08 am
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Happy Sunday, Lounge! I'm off to get breakfast and then transport two rotties to their new family.
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Is it ok to link to other forum websites on here? Thought y'all might appreciate this one.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bourbon/com...t_my_grandmas/
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