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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
I was in the DCA SC 3 weeks ago and it was horribly crowded. A complete zoo. Not a premium experience at all.

This is what it is all too often like in Detroit at the main Sky Club. Unfortunately, many lounge-goers either are unaware of the secondary Sky Club locations or they prefer the main one. It's very frustrating for those who have paid for a 5-figure international business-class ticket and can't find a seat single.

Delta's Sky Clubs have been overcrowded for years. Many of the lounges simply aren't big enough. They really need separate lounges for international business-class passengers.

You're better off hanging out in the terminal concourse. At least there you can eat in a civilized manner at a restaurant.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
This is what it is all too often like in Detroit at the main Sky Club. Unfortunately, many lounge-goers either are unaware of the secondary Sky Club locations or they prefer the main one. It's very frustrating for those who have paid for a 5-figure international business-class ticket and can't find a seat single.

Delta's Sky Clubs have been overcrowded for years. Many of the lounges simply aren't big enough. They really need separate lounges for international business-class passengers.

You're better off hanging out in the terminal concourse. At least there you can eat in a civilized manner at a restaurant.
DCA gets bad due to the high concentration of HVCs, and the limited terminal space. The real issue at that club is probably Amex Plat swipes, but DL can't start excepting certain clubs from that program (even though I wish they would at DCA). This is especially relevant now that DL offers D1 service from DCA.

They should block off a few tables at DCA for D1 customers, like Amex does at Centurion lounges for black card holders.

As much as it sucks, getting rid of all-airline access for membership holders will be essential once National Hall is moved airside.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by WWads
DCA gets bad due to the high concentration of HVCs, and the limited terminal space. The real issue at that club is probably Amex Plat swipes, but DL can't start excepting certain clubs from that program (even though I wish they would at DCA). This is especially relevant now that DL offers D1 service from DCA.

They should block off a few tables at DCA for D1 customers, like Amex does at Centurion lounges for black card holders.
Delta should treat American Express platinum cardholders the same as many lounges in high traffic airports treat Priority Pass cardholders: limit access during certain hours of the day.

I get that Delta makes a lot of money from its relationship with American Express, but American Express has its own competing lounges now. Plus, American Express won't allow Delta-branded American Express cardholders into its lounges.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
Delta should treat American Express platinum cardholders the same as many lounges in high traffic airports treat Priority Pass cardholders: limit access during certain hours of the day.

I get that Delta makes a lot of money from its relationship with American Express, but American Express has its own competing lounges now. Plus, American Express won't allow Delta-branded American Express cardholders into its lounges.
I'm hoping that a Centurion lounge comes to DCA once the changes are complete. It would be an ideal candidate IMO.

I think there's enough space in National Hall to put one somewhere, especially if Amex wants them to build a space during the construction.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by WWads
DCA gets bad due to the high concentration of HVCs, and the limited terminal space. The real issue at that club is probably Amex Plat swipes, but DL can't start excepting certain clubs from that program (even though I wish they would at DCA). This is especially relevant now that DL offers D1 service from DCA.

They should block off a few tables at DCA for D1 customers, like Amex does at Centurion lounges for black card holders.

As much as it sucks, getting rid of all-airline access for membership holders will be essential once National Hall is moved airside.
They could do what Alaska does with priority club swipes and subject Am Ex swipes to capacity controls. If the Skyclub is full they decline Am Ex plat swipes and only admit skyclub members and D1 flyers and international flyers who are Sky Priority.

I prefer the Boardrooms over the Skyclub just because they aren't as crowded and last time I flew out of SEA they were limiting admission at the boardroom to Boardroom members and Alaska first class flyers. Same with the one lounge at LIM last time I flew out of there, the club was packed and they weren't allowing priority pass swipes. The priority pass lounges will probably be even worse now that the new Hilton Am Ex gives unlimited PP Visits.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
The priority pass lounges will probably be even worse now that the new Hilton Am Ex gives unlimited PP Visits.
The Turkish lounge at Washington-Dulles is really bad after 2 p.m., when Air France and British Airways stop admitting Priority Pass cardholders.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
DCA gets bad due to the high concentration of HVCs, and the limited terminal space. The real issue at that club is probably Amex Plat swipes, but DL can't start excepting certain clubs from that program (even though I wish they would at DCA). This is especially relevant now that DL offers D1 service from DCA.

They should block off a few tables at DCA for D1 customers, like Amex does at Centurion lounges for black card holders.

As much as it sucks, getting rid of all-airline access for membership holders will be essential once National Hall is moved airside.
I don't think the 16 D1 passengers per day are make-or-break when it comes to crowding at DCA.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 1:34 pm
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I don't think the 16 D1 passengers per day are make-or-break when it comes to crowding at DCA.
No, but those passengers shouldn't have to fight for seats.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 1:57 pm
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
I'm hoping that a Centurion lounge comes to DCA once the changes are complete. It would be an ideal candidate IMO.

I think there's enough space in National Hall to put one somewhere, especially if Amex wants them to build a space during the construction.
I dont think there is any space anywhere in Terminal B/C for any new lounge at DCA. The new lounge space in the new RJ pier will be an AC and there are already two other ACs in the Gate 23-34 pier and 35-45 pier. I doubt AA will close one of the clubs and there dosnt seem to be anywhere else they could put it. I think Im totally wrong here but didnt UA use to have a Red Carpet Club in the 23-34 pier? (their old gates PMCO). If so, that is the only space I think a lounge could possibly go.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
No, but those passengers shouldn't have to fight for seats.
And neither should those of us who paid for a club membership, that soon will only be for SkyClubs (not partner lounges). In my mind everyone should come after people who actually paid to join the SC. But in my mind that Ball Ribbon Olympic event isnt a sport, so what do I know.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 3:55 pm
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 11:11 am
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Im here right now. Not that crowded.

Now you enter to the left of the desks and walk down the long hall past the protocol office and enter the club by the bathrooms, which are now open. Club manager said bar, kitchen and most work will be done. by the end of April with just cosmetic fixes after that.
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by puck021
Im here right now. Not that crowded.

Now you enter to the left of the desks and walk down the long hall past the protocol office and enter the club by the bathrooms, which are now open. Club manager said bar, kitchen and most work will be done. by the end of April with just cosmetic fixes after that.
Can you order me a scotch since you're already there? I'm in the security line and it's long...better make it a double.
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Old Mar 14, 2018 | 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by puck021
Im here right now. Not that crowded.

Now you enter to the left of the desks and walk down the long hall past the protocol office and enter the club by the bathrooms, which are now open. Club manager said bar, kitchen and most work will be done. by the end of April with just cosmetic fixes after that.
Are the bathrooms bigger? More than 1 toilet in the men's room; not sure what the count was in the women's room?
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