flyerCO

It'll look waitlisted, however it'll never process.

bgriff

Yeah I wouldn't count on you actually being waitlisted. If you have EF continue to check manually and call back if something opens up. If you don't have EF, ping Delta on Twitter occasionally to check.

Travelomania

I just got GUed for LAX-MSP-AMS and am told I am now waitlisted for the last leg AMS-BKK - after the agent changed the DL flight number to the KL number as noted in a prior post.
Will see how this turns out as the departure date nears - have fingers crossed.

flyerCO

It'll appear waitlisted, however it'll never process. BTW I don't believe the agent was supposed to change the flight code till you upgrade. This may or may not cause issues if and when you upgrade it.

dailycavalier

My wife and I are flying SFO-AMS-FCO and FCO-AMS-SFO in September. ExpertFlyer shows there are 2 Z seats available for outbound SFO-AMS-FCO, and 0 Z seats for inbound FCO-AMS-SFO. All of these flights are DL-marketed and KL-operated, and they are booked in T class.

My understanding is that the ticket will be reissued with KL-marketed flights numbers in Z class for the outbound flights when I apply the GUCs.

My question: since the inbound flights do not have upgrade space currently, what will happen to the inbound flight numbers if I apply the GUCs for the outbound flights? Will the inbound flights remain DL-marketed or change to KL-marketed?

I'm wondering if it is wise to apply 2 GUCs now for the outbound flights or if that could prevent me from applying 2 additional GUCs for the inbound flights. Thanks in advance.

bgriff

Just to double-check, you are checking Z space on the KL-marketed flights on ExpertFlyer right? You will book a DL-marketed flight, but you need the Z upgrade space to show up on the KL flight numbers, not the DL flight numbers.

If you apply the upgrades in only one direction, the other direction will remain DL flight numbers. (This is not so unusual and nothing to be worried about -- KLM.com for example will let you book trips not involving any upgrades with KL flight numbers in one direction and DL flight numbers in the other, and you could do the same thing if you wanted to for some reason by calling Delta.)

The agent may offer to do so, but note that it isn't possible to waitlist the other direction and if an agent tells you they have, the agent is wrong. So you'll want to keep monitoring the other direction on ExpertFlyer. Unfortunately ExpertFlyer alerts won't be any help for this purpose, because it's possible that Z space could become available on FCO-AMS-SFO while none remains available on FCO-AMS and AMS-SFO separately (or vice-versa), but EF will only let you set alerts for the individual legs, which is no use to you in this case.

Travelomania

The notice of "waitlisted" disappeared from the leg and shown is Z-class business. After checking with an agent today she explained that KL removed the "waitlist" request, since it's not possible.

What is recommended as the next course of action, besides checking on a regular basis, as recommended by the agent ?
Is there anything else I could do ?

dailycavalier

Yes, I am checking Z space on the KL-marketed flights on ExpertFlyer.

Super helpful. I am glad that changing to KL flight numbers in one direction only will not affect the flights in the other direction.

I will continue checking ExpertFlyer manually. Good to know that alerts can not check married segments.

Thanks bgriff!

flyerCO

If it shows you in Z then you've been upgraded. Thus confused what you're looking at.

dailycavalier

As an update to post #113 , I thankfully was able to get upgraded on my outbound SFO-AMS-FCO flights after talking with a Delta agent. My outbound flights were changed from DL flight numbers to KL flight numbers, now in Z class.

Now I'm trying to get upgraded on the inbound flights and today I saw on Expert Flyer that Z inventory is 2 for those flights. However, after talking with 3 Delta agents by phone, all of them say they see Z inventory is 0. On Expert Flyer I am searching SFO-FCO with a connection in AMS. Date and time: Oct 6, 2018 6am. Flights are KL 1596 and KL 605.

What can I do to try to get those Z seats? Is this a known issue where Z inventory is available on Expert Flyer, but Delta agents see no inventory?

A data point for when Global Upgrades are deposited: When I claimed them as a Choice Benefit, the confirmation page said it would take about 24 hours for me to receive them. However, I got an email confirmation within 2 hours and saw them appear in my Wallet on delta.com.

QDDawg

Apparently you CAN be waitlisted on KLM flights. I received my updated itinerary last week showing my 2nd leg AMS - IAD is now Z class with seats assigned. I just logged into KLM and confirmed we are in fact sitting up front on the final leg of the journey. I never called back in - this just happened - so .... I'm still confused on the waitlist policy, but am happy the GUC went through.

Travelomania

I don't know when, but Z-class has been removed again, as well as the additional segment with the KL flight number, and I'm back at my old selected seat.

TetonSig

It’s looking like I’ll be in this situation next week. Right now there’s J3Z0 on my Delta marketed, KLM operated flight from AMS-SFO. I’ve done the 25K miles upgrade before never used GUCs this way before and I have two for my companion and myself I can use.

So, just to clarify, if DoD comes and there are any J seats left I can have the lounge agent pull my GUCs and use them to upgrade? Even if they haven’t opened Z inventory?

Also, does this still process like a pre-DoD ticket? Into Z so I’d get the business class bonus?

flyerCO

Why do people keeping mentioning the Z thing. It's a known error that will get fixed the more it is talked about.

thomas22

I am confused.

Booked on 6 segment trip through delta (two passengers), the 4 segments operated by delta cleared at booking. The remaining two are KLM operated. I received EF notification that Z is available on one of the segments I need. I called Delta, they said nope, nothing available, has to be on KLM flight. I thought I must have done the alert wrong. I logged into EF and checked the KLM flight and sure enough two Z seats available. I called Delta back, after a bunch of back and forth was put on hold then they came back and said the Z that is available on KLM is for purchase not upgrade????

What am I doing wrong?

I am down to 3-4 months out and starting to think I chose the wrong flights.