Using Delta Global Upgrade (GUC) with KLM Consolidated
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I made this mistake two weeks ago. Booked on KLM and called to apply GUC. NO go unless YBM. I could buy the same flights with DL codes (LAX-JNB RT) AND upgrade, but they have to switch to KLM codes to upgrade. Makes no sense.
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On my recent KL flight where I upgraded into World Business, I received a 50% MQM bonus. The Delta fare class was Z, while the KL fare class inexplicably ended up being C (I thought Delta, KLM, and AirFrance completed their business class fare class alignment a number of years ago). I'd guess this was an anomaly, not the rule – my best guess is that there was an error with the original re-ticketing, and then when it was corrected, the agent forced re-ticketing it into the lowest available fare class at the time (C).
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Good to know. Though, supposedly Delta can now tell the difference between a ticket originally booked as Y and a ticket re-booked as Y due to IRROPS for the purposes of MQM accrual. Devil's advocate: if you originally book a ticket with Delta on a KLM-operated flight and then upgrade using a GUC, shouldn't Delta know that? Of course, that makes pretty generous assumptions about the capabilities of Delta's IT...
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Good to know. Though, supposedly Delta can now tell the difference between a ticket originally booked as Y and a ticket re-booked as Y due to IRROPS for the purposes of MQM accrual. Devil's advocate: if you originally book a ticket with Delta on a KLM-operated flight and then upgrade using a GUC, shouldn't Delta know that? Of course, that makes pretty generous assumptions about the capabilities of Delta's IT...
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Bumping this a little:
Looking to book a KL coded, DL operated (AMS-SEA) flight. Can't get it as a DL code because of other flights on the itinerary.
Can I use a GUC on the flight? If so, what are the fare class restrictions? And do I need to be looking for Z on the KL coded flight (they exist now)?
Looking to book a KL coded, DL operated (AMS-SEA) flight. Can't get it as a DL code because of other flights on the itinerary.
Can I use a GUC on the flight? If so, what are the fare class restrictions? And do I need to be looking for Z on the KL coded flight (they exist now)?
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Bumping this a little:
Looking to book a KL coded, DL operated (AMS-SEA) flight. Can't get it as a DL code because of other flights on the itinerary.
Can I use a GUC on the flight? If so, what are the fare class restrictions? And do I need to be looking for Z on the KL coded flight (they exist now)?
Looking to book a KL coded, DL operated (AMS-SEA) flight. Can't get it as a DL code because of other flights on the itinerary.
Can I use a GUC on the flight? If so, what are the fare class restrictions? And do I need to be looking for Z on the KL coded flight (they exist now)?
Delta OY space would ultimately govern availability, though that does seem to at least sometimes sync up with Z space on the KL code as viewed on EF. No guarantees though.
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Bumping this a little:
Looking to book a KL coded, DL operated (AMS-SEA) flight. Can't get it as a DL code because of other flights on the itinerary.
Can I use a GUC on the flight? If so, what are the fare class restrictions? And do I need to be looking for Z on the KL coded flight (they exist now)?
Looking to book a KL coded, DL operated (AMS-SEA) flight. Can't get it as a DL code because of other flights on the itinerary.
Can I use a GUC on the flight? If so, what are the fare class restrictions? And do I need to be looking for Z on the KL coded flight (they exist now)?
DL operated needs O space on the DL flight number to be upgraded. (Even if coded as KLM, the upgrade space must be found under the DL flight number)
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I have been told the KL rules (YBM upgrade only) apply, but I believe others have been told or expect that normal Delta rules would apply. May be a HUCA situation.
Delta OY space would ultimately govern availability, though that does seem to at least sometimes sync up with Z space on the KL code as viewed on EF. No guarantees though.
Delta OY space would ultimately govern availability, though that does seem to at least sometimes sync up with Z space on the KL code as viewed on EF. No guarantees though.
DL operated follow the rules for DL flights, even if coded as AF/KLM. Some agents get confused thoughwith the rules for KLM operated flights varying depending on if DL/KL coded.
DL operated needs O space on the DL flight number to be upgraded. (Even if coded as KLM, the upgrade space must be found under the DL flight number)
DL operated needs O space on the DL flight number to be upgraded. (Even if coded as KLM, the upgrade space must be found under the DL flight number)
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While this thread is bumped up, I have a couple of questions
I read upthread that a GUC can be processed at the KLM lounge in AMS. Is it also possible to process the GUC at a KLM ticket office/airport counter elsewhere in the world - specifically DEL, India? That way I could get the upgrade (assuming its available to begin with) on the DEL-AMS leg as well. Anyone ever done something remotely similar or is it just at AMS?
I read upthread that a GUC can be processed at the KLM lounge in AMS. Is it also possible to process the GUC at a KLM ticket office/airport counter elsewhere in the world - specifically DEL, India? That way I could get the upgrade (assuming its available to begin with) on the DEL-AMS leg as well. Anyone ever done something remotely similar or is it just at AMS?
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Should be possible as long as there are still seats. It was quit some time ago i did the DOD's upgrade. However remember succeeding at plenty of locations in Asia: TLV, DEL, HKG, NRT, ICN, PEK, HKG
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Thanks for confirming!
Do you remember if you used a GUC or paid the prescribed copay and upgraded with miles? Was it at the airport during check-in or at a city ticket office? Essentially I am trying to upgrade all the way from DEL-AMS-MSP on a single GUC and trying to find the best strategy to achieve it.
Do you remember if you used a GUC or paid the prescribed copay and upgraded with miles? Was it at the airport during check-in or at a city ticket office? Essentially I am trying to upgrade all the way from DEL-AMS-MSP on a single GUC and trying to find the best strategy to achieve it.