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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 3:27 pm
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Those Shanghai flights must be doing really well (relatively speaking) if DL is deploying the largest plane it has to operate them.
What were you expecting, a 737?

This kind of route is exactly the mission of the A350, it's the obvious choice.
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
What were you expecting, a 737?

This kind of route is exactly the mission of the A350, it's the obvious choice.
777 is a little smaller and DL has flown it to Asia in the past. And from SEA - the A330.
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013
777 is a little smaller and DL has flown it to Asia in the past.
They are in the process of being retired, hardly makes sense to put them on a route now.
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013
777 is a little smaller and DL has flown it to Asia in the past. And from SEA - the A330.
Than the A350? Since when?
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Than the A350? Since when?
Seat capacity. The A350 has 18 more total seats than the 777.
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
They are in the process of being retired, hardly makes sense to put them on a route now.
Both the 77E and 77L are going? I thought it was just the 77L. Yikes. Those birds aren't even that old yet.
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013
Both the 77E and 77L are going? I thought it was just the 77L. Yikes. Those birds aren't even that old yet.
Yep, both. True they are not that old. But they use significantly more fuel than the A350 and having just one fleet type has significant operational benefits as well
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Old Aug 19, 2020, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013
Both the 77E and 77L are going? I thought it was just the 77L. Yikes. Those birds aren't even that old yet.
Yes, they’re all out. The 772/Es are older ~20 I believe. The 77Ls are around 10. The problem with this fleet is the limited number of aircraft and the fact they have different engines. The 77Ls have GE90s while the older ones have RRs. If DL had a sizable fleet like AA with the same engine types, they’d probably be staying around a bit longer.
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Old Aug 20, 2020, 9:22 am
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I'm feeling old. I remember when the 777 first came out. I remember when the 767 first came out.
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Old Aug 20, 2020, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by amanuensis
I'm feeling old. I remember when the 777 first came out. I remember when the 767 first came out.
Heck, I remember when the 757 came out.
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Old Aug 20, 2020, 10:26 am
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Heck, I remember when the 757 came out.
It came out in 1982, when I was in high school. I wasn't paying attention to aviation then. Wasn't really paying attention to almost anything.

Edited to add: Hum, according to Wikipedia the 757 and 767 both came out in 1982. For some reason, I thought the 767 came out in about 1985, when I was in college.
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 3:14 pm
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TATL and TPAC plans for a Winter 20-21 and Summer 2021

Delta released its plans for TATL and TPAC for winter 2020 (Oct 25-March 27) and summer 2021 (from March 28:

https://news.delta.com/delta-brings-...nd-summer-2021
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by amanuensis
It came out in 1982, when I was in high school. I wasn't paying attention to aviation then. Wasn't really paying attention to almost anything.

Edited to add: Hum, according to Wikipedia the 757 and 767 both came out in 1982. For some reason, I thought the 767 came out in about 1985, when I was in college.
First flight of the 767 was in 1981 and the first one entered service with UA in 82.

First flight of the 757 was in February 1982 and it entered service with Eastern in 1983.
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
First flight of the 767 was in 1981 and the first one entered service with UA in 82.

First flight of the 757 was in February 1982 and it entered service with Eastern in 1983.
How times have changed. Almost impossible to imagine Boeing or Airbus launching 2 new planes at almost the same time nowadays.
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
How times have changed. Almost impossible to imagine Boeing or Airbus launching 2 new planes at almost the same time nowadays.
Almost impossible to imagine either launching truly 'new' planes at all. The newest thing on the market is realistically the A220 which is really a Bombardier product.
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