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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Aug 26, 2021, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by drminn
Had a schedule change on an award ticket MSP - BOS - AMS - STR. Flight MSP to BOS leaving .2+ hours earlier, nothing else changed. Got the e-mail, tried changing online, didn't let me. Called this morning. So here is the good news: Was quoted a 59 min callback time, got call back after 35 min. Was trying to get on the MSP - AMS nonstop that connects to the same AMS STR flight.

So here comes the bad news. I was on the phone for about an hour, they came up with all kinds of reasons why the change wouldn't go through. In the end they claimed that KLM didn't have any award space on the AMS - STR portion, and they (agent + ticketing) couldn't rebook me because they need KLM award space, even though I am on that flight, on an award ticket. My question is, is this a case of HUCA or should I just suck it up and spend 4 hours more in planes and airports?
Definitely HUCA. I've had agents hold the existing partner segments in my itinerary and just make changes to the remaining segments. And even if they needed to contact KLM, why wouldn't KLM approve reissuing your ticket to stay on the same KLM flight you're already on? I would escalate this one to a supervisor if necessary.
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 1:25 pm
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I noticed Delta a schedule Change from Mid-October until December and some things that I found out is less Boeing 717s flying out of Dayton, Wichita, and Des Moines, and replaced by flying on a CRJ 900s on those routes. Also OKC is nearly on All Boeing 717 with one on a CRJ 900s & one on a A320. I am not sure if it’s Delta deciding to put Boeing 717s back into Storage and instead of being out more A319/A320s, they are bringing out more CRJ 900s.
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Cool Guy
I noticed Delta a schedule Change from Mid-October until December and some things that I found out is less Boeing 717s flying out of Dayton, Wichita, and Des Moines, and replaced by flying on a CRJ 900s on those routes. Also OKC is nearly on All Boeing 717 with one on a CRJ 900s & one on a A320. I am not sure if it’s Delta deciding to put Boeing 717s back into Storage and instead of being out more A319/A320s, they are bringing out more CRJ 900s.
Far more likely they're just moving planes around the network. You're looking at an incredibly small subset of the network
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
Far more likely they're just moving planes around the network. You're looking at an incredibly small subset of the network
An example is MSP-ORD which is mostly RJs for September, but goes 6x daily 717s from October through 12/17.
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 5:20 pm
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I noticed my nonstop DL1409 ATL-ANC in October and November have been upgraded to 767-400er instead of 767-300er. November flight the travel time increased by 40 minutes with this aircraft change. However departure time is about 30 minutes earlier, basically negating any difference.

Great that I'll be in premium select now since I was at the front of comfort+.
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Tony King
I noticed my nonstop DL1409 ATL-ANC in October and November have been upgraded to 767-400er instead of 767-300er. November flight the travel time increased by 40 minutes with this aircraft change. However departure time is about 30 minutes earlier, basically negating any difference.

Great that I'll be in premium select now since I was at the front of comfort+.
Conversely, my D1 ATL-FRA in November went from the 400ER to a beat up old A332
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by RetiredATLATC
Conversely, my D1 ATL-FRA in November went from the 400ER to a beat up old A332
The 332s and 333s are starting upgrades this year, but for reasons beyond my understanding, D1 is not included. They are definitely due. I'm really surprised they're not getting the 339 suites.
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 5:51 pm
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My VCE-ATL on Oct. 20 went from a 763 to a 764. I was in 1A, now in 8A. Yeah!
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 7:07 pm
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JFK - ATL in early November went from 2A on a 739 to 2A on a 764! Not complaining… definitely makes up for the lake of food on the exception route.
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 7:13 pm
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SEA-HNL and the return in October both changed from 757 to A330, got moved from C+ to PS.
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
The 332s and 333s are starting upgrades this year, but for reasons beyond my understanding, D1 is not included. They are definitely due. I'm really surprised they're not getting the 339 suites.
was on a refurbished 333 this week w/PS. D1 is so ooooold…
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Old Aug 28, 2021, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by lonelygod
was on a refurbished 333 this week w/PS. D1 is so ooooold…
Yep, I've been booking away from DL on TATL J because of the likelihood of ending up on a 332/333/763
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Old Aug 29, 2021, 1:57 am
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If they did a schedule change, am I entited to be rebooked on an itinerary similar to my original one?

What I booked:

BOS-SEA
5+ hour connection in SEA
SEA-ANC

They rebooked me on a shorter connection, but the longer connection is still available. The website won't let me back on it, but if I call, will they put me back on it? Gold Medallion booked on a Z fare if that matters.

And on my return, I booked:

ANC-SEA
1hr30min connection to be safe
SEA-BOS

The rebooked me onto a 30 minute connection. Yikes!

The website won't let me rebook onto any other flights without a fare difference, and most flights don't have Z availability so I can't get on them at all.

On the bright side, all of the A321s were swapped with lie-flat 757s.
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Old Aug 29, 2021, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by diburning
If they did a schedule change, am I entited to be rebooked on an itinerary similar to my original one?

What I booked:

BOS-SEA
5+ hour connection in SEA
SEA-ANC

They rebooked me on a shorter connection, but the longer connection is still available. The website won't let me back on it, but if I call, will they put me back on it? Gold Medallion booked on a Z fare if that matters.

And on my return, I booked:

ANC-SEA
1hr30min connection to be safe
SEA-BOS

The rebooked me onto a 30 minute connection. Yikes!

The website won't let me rebook onto any other flights without a fare difference, and most flights don't have Z availability so I can't get on them at all.

On the bright side, all of the A321s were swapped with lie-flat 757s.
No problem. You can get back to your original timing or ANY other reasonable routing that same day (in case you find something even better than your original) for free.
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Old Aug 29, 2021, 5:10 am
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I knew it was going to happen. My ATW-MSP flight for October got changed. I got moved to a flight taking off at 10:58, connection MSP-MCO takes off at 10:00. Oddly they are still selling my original flight that was scheduled to take off at 7:00. Is this a typical IT screw up and just let it play out before I do anything? Or call now with options? I'm meeting a friend in MSP and flying the rest of the way together, any chance DL will let me fly on the late afternoon flight the day before? I'll pay for an airport hotel for the night. Otherwise I guess I'm changing my connection point and sitting at MCO for a couple hours waiting.
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