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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 1:06 pm
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Yes, I've noticed some pretty major changes on my May flights. Some RDU-JFK-RDU block times increased by over 20 minutes and flight times shifted by up to an hour.

2hr 12min JFK-RDU seems a bit excessive in my opinion... But it's an evening flight so I understand the JFK craziness delays.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 1:34 pm
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And my MSP connection just dropped below MCT. What I've been waiting for.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 1:48 pm
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Had an ATL that was slightly uncomfortable (less than an hour in summer thunderstorm season) go illegal on me, so hurrah!
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 3:48 pm
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My crack-of-dawn GRR-DTW now departs five minutes earlier. Oh, the humanity.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 3:51 pm
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Do all the other major, and for that matter minor, airlines have similar changes happen periodically, like DL does on Saturdays? I would assume so, but does anyone know?
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by audidudi
Do all the other major, and for that matter minor, airlines have similar changes happen periodically, like DL does on Saturdays? I would assume so, but does anyone know?
I can't say for certain, but I believe DL is the master at schedule tweaking. I am sure they have the most 1 and 2 minute changes. I assume DL's chief scheduler is an OCD perfectionist
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 4:30 pm
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I have a trip in early May and both the outbound and return flights moved back by about 20 mins. But it looks like they also got switched to refurb'd 757s (75H?...the one with the silly C+ section in front of the boarding door)...so I'm calling it a win.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 4:33 pm
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And I managed to get most of my rebooking sorted out. Will have to wait on seat selection a bit and contemplate the koan of Equipment Swap- the open C+ seats that we cannot see right now but still exist. (As verified by a CS rep)
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 9:09 pm
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I think my return flight from SLC to MCO on June 2nd leaving 515pm 2603 is gone. When I click on details for my ticket the app just crashed. i tried to buy a seat on it to see and it not listed. Now just a red eye is an option.

Should be fun since my entire family is on the vanished flight. 12 of us.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Jon_R
Should be fun since my entire family is on the vanished flight. 12 of us.
Yikes! and I thought I had it bad with 6 (plus an in-lap infant) to call in for.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by eastindywalrus
My crack-of-dawn GRR-DTW now departs five minutes earlier. Oh, the humanity.
I had a 5 min change and got a free change to flights many hours later. Gotta love the SCS! #Winning
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Renes Points
I had a 5 min change and got a free change to flights many hours later. Gotta love the SCS! #Winning
I got a free change for a 5min schedule change because my flight arrival time changed from 11:57pm to 12:03am and the agent said because it arrives on a new day, it could be changed for free.
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 3:37 am
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FAR is rapidly becoming the CRJ capital of the world. 1h52min schedule change & 3rd week in a row that i'm downgraded from First to row 1 'Delta Comfort+®' on yet another trip thanks to change of equipment. Where do they all suddenly get them from?
Rubbing some salt into that wound, the trip is now more expensive so no financial compensation according to the Delta CSR, pfffft.
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by Renes Points
I had a 5 min change and got a free change to flights many hours later. Gotta love the SCS! #Winning
The system did actually present me with a change option for both this itinerary and my return itinerary, which saw the DTW-GRR flight pushed back 20 minutes. I'm actually glad that one was pushed back. I-D connections are about as stress-free as you can get there, but that change gave me just a little more breathing room in case of any delays. For better or for worse, it looks like I already have the best flights available. My outbound GRR-DTW-NRT-SIN itinerary is in First, Premium Select, and C+. I'm presented with options to change to all economy or pull a bunch of extra skymiles out of my hat for Delta One on just my final NRT-SIN leg, as well as the ever-appealing option of going east and taking 44 hours to get to SIN through AMS in economy. On the way home, all the other options just have longer connections.

Side note: It looks like the change to my final DTW-GRR flight on the return itinerary split it from a One-Way itinerary into a Multi-City itinerary.

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Old Mar 18, 2018, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
FAR is rapidly becoming the CRJ capital of the world. 1h52min schedule change & 3rd week in a row that i'm downgraded from First to row 1 'Delta Comfort+®' on yet another trip thanks to change of equipment. Where do they all suddenly get them from?
Rubbing some salt into that wound, the trip is now more expensive so no financial compensation according to the Delta CSR, pfffft.
Doesn't that conflict with the $200 "mandatory minimum" downgrade comp? Not published anywhere as far as I know but that is pretty much universal. I would call back...
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