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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 12:19 pm
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I was expecting my JFK-LAX-JFK trip in early June to get erased by this weekend's schedule change and it looks like both of my flights no longer exist. The website isn't showing to what I've been rebooked to yet, but I might be going from a 76Z to a 764.

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Old Apr 17, 2021, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyinHawaiian
I was expecting my JFK-LAX-JFK trip in early June to get erased by this weekend's schedule change and it looks like both of my flights no longer exist. The website isn't showing to what I've been rebooked to yet, but I might be going from a 76Z to a 76D.
Looks like they actually added extra flights on this route to the Saturday schedule (going from 5x to 7x), while Sunday/weekday flights lost 1-2 daily flights (going from 9x to 7x(Tue/Wed) - 8x daily).
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
but it's still quite a bit below placeholder schedule on many routes
Yes, definitely still below placeholder/normal times schedule, but certainly nice to see month over month increases.
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Not sure your booked times. There's plenty of 2 connection options with short layovers in each city.

It looks like ATL-JAC is once daily. There's plenty of options LEX-ATL but 4 hour connection looks like is minimum on June 11.

I would take the double connection. DL will rebook for free.
So after a 45 min call with customer service we are all set. Ended up changing to more conventient flights the next morning.

Lex->Dtw->Jac arriving in Jackson WY little after 10 am in June 12 instead of at 8 pm on June 11.

Lost our paid upgrade on leg 1 because of lack of seats for us in first class but already saw a refund for it. They also let us change to more convenient flights on the return.

This ended up saving us $$$. Our lodging in Grand Teton is the most I have ever apid for a hotel ($450 per night- ouch). We are paying for one less night. Also saving $200 on the rental (downgraded to pick up) and $240 from refunds from the first class upgrade. Glad Delta is flexible in these situations. Now I just hope our flights schedule sticks and Enterprise has a truck for us when we arrive.
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by straychicken
So after a 45 min call with customer service we are all set. Ended up changing to more conventient flights the next morning.

Lex->Dtw->Jac arriving in Jackson WY little after 10 am in June 12 instead of at 8 pm on June 11.

Lost our paid upgrade on leg 1 because of lack of seats for us in first class but already saw a refund for it. They also let us change to more convenient flights on the return.

This ended up saving us $$$. Our lodging in Grand Teton is the most I have ever apid for a hotel ($450 per night- ouch). We are paying for one less night. Also saving $200 on the rental (downgraded to pick up) and $240 from refunds from the first class upgrade. Glad Delta is flexible in these situations. Now I just hope our flights schedule sticks and Enterprise has a truck for us when we arrive.
Be careful renting a pickup. Often credit card rental car coverage excludes them.
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
Be careful renting a pickup. Often credit card rental car coverage excludes them.

Thanks for the warning! I will check with our car insurance agency. We have a pick up so hopefully it will be covered under our insurance.
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 7:29 pm
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"We’ve been experiencing high call volumes for 14 months and have yet to permanently fix the situation".

Current hold time: 2h 15m for PM....
There, I fixed the message for them.
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 7:51 pm
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Originally Posted by straychicken
This ended up saving us $$$. Our lodging in Grand Teton is the most I have ever apid for a hotel ($450 per night- ouch). We are paying for one less night.
In or adjacent to top tier US National Parks hotel prices can make Manhattan rates look affordable in comparison. I just scored a reservation for July at the Yosemite Valley Lodge (no tvs, wifi, or air conditioning, just a really really awesome view in the right location) and it's just shy of $300 a night. Everyone talks about Switzerland being expensive but our waterfall view room in Lauterbrunnen in 2019 was breakfast included and less than 200 CHF a night.

Speaking of which, I now need to get plane tickets to the SF Bay area for July. When's the estimated schedule change time frame for then so I've got better odds of the first booking sticking properly.
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
Be careful renting a pickup. Often credit card rental car coverage excludes them.
Pickups arent excluded. Commercial trucks (Budget, Uhaul, Penske) rentals are what are normally excluded. While both are called trucks, they're very different things.

Just like at state line inspection posts (ports of entry). You may see signs saying Rental trucks must pull in. They dont mean passenger type trucks that you rent from Hertz, etc... They mean Uhaul/Budget/Penske type.
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Old Apr 17, 2021, 9:53 pm
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Originally Posted by beachmouse
In or adjacent to top tier US National Parks hotel prices can make Manhattan rates look affordable in comparison. I just scored a reservation for July at the Yosemite Valley Lodge (no tvs, wifi, or air conditioning, just a really really awesome view in the right location) and it's just shy of $300 a night. Everyone talks about Switzerland being expensive but our waterfall view room in Lauterbrunnen in 2019 was breakfast included and less than 200 CHF a night.

Speaking of which, I now need to get plane tickets to the SF Bay area for July. When's the estimated schedule change time frame for then so I've got better odds of the first booking sticking properly.
I suspect they'll update the rest of June schedule into last day of June (or some date in early July) next weekend (UA did a similar two-phase update to it's May schedule a few weeks ago). But the rest of July probably won't get big updates until 4-5 weeks from now. It looks like UA decided to do their big update to their June schedule this weekend and it looks like it goes exactly through June 30th (for example, DTW-EWR is currently 3x daily in June through June 30th, and then jumps to 7x on July 1st). Of course DL could do something different.
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Old Apr 18, 2021, 2:48 am
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ATH restart brought forward to May 28.

Looks like JFK-ATH is restarting May 28 with the recent schedule update. Given that Greece is apparently opening for vaccinated and tested Americans starting May 14, Delta has brought forward the restart from June 5 to May 28. It will be the 763ER for May 28-30, and then the A330-300 from May 31.
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Old Apr 18, 2021, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by FlyinHawaiian
I was expecting my JFK-LAX-JFK trip in early June to get erased by this weekend's schedule change and it looks like both of my flights no longer exist. The website isn't showing to what I've been rebooked to yet, but I might be going from a 76Z to a 76D.
+1 is travelling with me on a separate PNR; the auto rebooking tool took care of her yesterday afternoon but my itinerary was left out of synch so I had to get Delta to fix it so I could get my seats assigned next to her. I called the PM line this morning around 0630 ET and after waiting on hold for 15 min (robot said it was only supposed to be five) I hung up and tried the text messaging service. It took an agent about 45 min to get back to me but it was fixed without any issue. I did end up on a 764; looking forward to get on a new cabin aircraft!

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Old Apr 19, 2021, 12:22 pm
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I booked BWI-SLC and a schedule change pushed my departure back by 2 hours. There is also a DCA-SLC flight that leaves at my original departure time. In the past I've had no problem switching these flights to maintain my original departure time after a schedule change, however in this case I also applied RUCs for me and my companion. There was space available on BWI-SLC so we have F seat assignments but the tickets have not reissued (and RUCs have not yet been pulled from my account). If I switch to DCA-SLC, will I lose the confirmed F seats and be forced to waitlist (there is no upgrade space available on that flight)? Would it have made a difference if the tickets had been reissued before the schedule change?
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Old Apr 19, 2021, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Billy Mumphrey
I booked BWI-SLC and a schedule change pushed my departure back by 2 hours. There is also a DCA-SLC flight that leaves at my original departure time. In the past I've had no problem switching these flights to maintain my original departure time after a schedule change, however in this case I also applied RUCs for me and my companion. There was space available on BWI-SLC so we have F seat assignments but the tickets have not reissued (and RUCs have not yet been pulled from my account). If I switch to DCA-SLC, will I lose the confirmed F seats and be forced to waitlist (there is no upgrade space available on that flight)? Would it have made a difference if the tickets had been reissued before the schedule change?
Technically once you are confirmed in F/D1 you should be rebooked in same. However in reality, not so easy. Agents don't know the rules and make things up.
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Old Apr 19, 2021, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Technically once you are confirmed in F/D1 you should be rebooked in same. However in reality, not so easy. Agents don't know the rules and make things up.
Thanks, I can be persistent if I know I'm on solid ground.
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