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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Apr 24, 2021, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013
Pretty significant (and surprising) cut in the schedule for June, including some close-in cancellations. Are the traffic numbers not improving?
When in June? June 5th - June 17th was done last weekend. This weekend covered June 18th through August 4th which was mostly just an extension of last weekend's reductions for early June. Note that most routes have bumps in capacity above the May schedule. So, overall, flights are increasing. The forward placeholder schedule just continues to be overly optimistic on most routes.
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Old Apr 24, 2021, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
That's actually noteworthy. I've never been successful at doing a self-serve involving either a date change or a co-terminal change
I'll note the ticket had originally been DCA-ATL-SJC, but Id be surprised if the system is smart is enough to know what I was originally booked on.
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Old Apr 24, 2021, 2:00 pm
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4 of 5 segments changed for me for a itinerary in July where I used RUCs in both directions. Looking at the new schedule, the changes are minor, but the system did not auto-rebook me on the new flights. I'm guessing since there were changes in flight numbers and equipment (or because of the RUCs), it couldn't do that for some reason.

Calling in now. 1hr 40min callback wait for a PM.

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Old Apr 24, 2021, 6:42 pm
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More subtle changes to the mid-June and onward JFK-LAX schedule on top of the changes from last Saturday. I'm seeing more flights operated by 764, replacing 767-300 and some other minor time changes.
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Old Apr 24, 2021, 7:28 pm
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A bunch of my segments changed times but that's all. I'm going to wait to do anything for a couple weeks as I think these may change again. June 6th already changed twice.
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Old Apr 24, 2021, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyinHawaiian
More subtle changes to the mid-June and onward JFK-LAX schedule on top of the changes from last Saturday. I'm seeing more flights operated by 764, replacing 767-300 and some other minor time changes.
Probably a good thing. The 763s are rapidly becoming pretty uncompetitive on this route.
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Old Apr 24, 2021, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ty97
4 of 4 impacted
- 1 minor, actually moves the time in a direction I prefer
- 1 major, I'll need to fix it another day
- 2 moderate, TBD if I'll change or not, need to investigate options

I knew the schedules would change, so no big deal.
Called in, flights all fixed now. With routings that provide increased MQMs of course.
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Old Apr 25, 2021, 3:22 am
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none of my june segments are impacted but one flight in september seems to have disappeared from my trips....its a dl/af codeshare international flight....the trip is showing up as cancelled when i check the reservation on the af website however the same segments are still available on dl.com....
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Old Apr 25, 2021, 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Probably a good thing. The 763s are rapidly becoming pretty uncompetitive on this route.
Agreed. I'm happy that my flights were swapped onto the 764; looking forward to trying out the new seats up front!
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Old Apr 25, 2021, 5:31 am
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Weird update for me. Had originally booked DTW-LAX-OGG

It was sort of split into two separate reservations:
1- DTW-LAX (isolated one way (and not to OGG), very early in the day)
2- DTW-LAX-OGG (with midday DTW-LAX segment still included)

So oddly, I now have two separate DTW-LAX segments both booked on the same day. If they had also given me a free LAX-DTW segment in between the two DTW-LAX segments, I might have kept it for the MQMs.
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Old Apr 25, 2021, 8:33 am
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Returning from ATH via JFK on a noon flight in late June with family splitting off to ATL and DEN. DL removed later flights from JFK to both destinations and now down to one daily 8 AM nonstop to DEN and the last flight to ATL leaving at 5 PM. The best scenario for us was keeping ATH-JFK - overnighting JFK - and out the next morning. The only other alternative was a 6 AM departure with a double connection to get everyone home. It's a little perplexing they would remove their late afternoon international arrival connection bank. Wondering if schedules to other cities took a similar hit.
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Old Apr 25, 2021, 8:33 am
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Had changes to both my outbound and inbound for DTW-LAX over the Fourth of July weekend. They kept the same flight number on the outbound and moved the departure up ~2 hours, but then added another flight that only left 1 minute before my outbound's original departure time. Of course, they didn't put me on that flight, so now I have to try to get switched to that since I can't make it to the airport in time for my new outbound departure. Flying on a Companion Certificate, and even though fare class U is open on that flight, it says there are no seats available. Great.

"Current hold time is... 31. Hours."

Uhh... can someone remind me if any social media platforms are a good option for help these days?

Edit: Disregard the above. Found their "Message Us" option on the website. We'll see how long it takes to get a text back.

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Old Apr 25, 2021, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by eastindywalrus
Current hold time is... 31. Hours.
Do they have to send someone on a horse to talk to you?
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Old Apr 25, 2021, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by eastindywalrus
"Current hold time is... 31. Hours."
I'm morbidly curious what the actual callback time would have turned out to be in that situation.

Yesterday was a large summer schedule change plus major Southeast storms (including ATL). But that would explain a 31 minute wait at most.
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Old Apr 27, 2021, 1:29 pm
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My Saturday mornings are becoming a permanent chat with DL through iMessage. For three weeks now, my itineraries for June are getting messed up. I do see more wide bodies being added to routes like CUN (A330 from ATL, 763 from MSP) but other flights being removed from the schedule. in some cases, I've ended rebooked in F without being able to select seats, luckily seems that passengers from those flights were also affected and later on I find available seats.
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