Who is with me on moving to AA.
Jul 20, 2015, 7:59 pm
#76
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Umm, it might be a lil late for that. You kinda put the word out already http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...moving-aa.html 
Jul 20, 2015, 8:02 pm
#77
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I've heard rumors that AA isn't doing status matches for DL/UA right now. I suppose they want to limit all the low value customers watering down their program (more) before they can change it. The best part is that once they do that: all the LVCs will come rushing back to DL/UA...with no status...
Jul 20, 2015, 8:09 pm
#78
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I am ready to move with my wallet and not just with my posts.Who is up for moving their loyalty to AA from delta. This is my thought. I am a diamond with delta. I am willing to status challenge to AA to platinum level.
I think if we can get enough diamonds to transfer to AA we may be able to negotiate a better deal. Discuss....
I think if we can get enough diamonds to transfer to AA we may be able to negotiate a better deal. Discuss....
However, I feel like AA already knows their FF program is superior...
But worth a shot if you get a couple of people going?
Edit: Just saw this post
Is this very recent? There's quite a few reports in this thread people getting the EXP status match/challenge throughout the past two months.
Jul 20, 2015, 8:25 pm
#79
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First, what is your theory or hypothesis? I am still not sure. It would be great if you quantified it? How about a simple Q&A: since we are talking about DAL and AA, do you expect DAL stock to outperform AA in the next 1, 3 and 5 years? In the end, higher load, volume and PRASM boils down to profits.
Regarding large cities, there are at least a dozen ways to define it. A few: Top 100 metros by population; top 50 metros by population; the same by total income level (per capita GDP * pop of the metro). Since this is about airlines and airports, let's define by top 50 airport with O&D traffic. My guess is that the top 50 O&D airports account for at least 70% and more if you count international of the total US O&D traffic.
Regarding large cities, there are at least a dozen ways to define it. A few: Top 100 metros by population; top 50 metros by population; the same by total income level (per capita GDP * pop of the metro). Since this is about airlines and airports, let's define by top 50 airport with O&D traffic. My guess is that the top 50 O&D airports account for at least 70% and more if you count international of the total US O&D traffic.
2) Load and Volume do not automatically equal profits in the airline world. It's about yield. And airlines carry more than passengers. Cargo pays the bills too.
3) I can't predict the future on AA versus DL stock and I'm not even going to try. That is subject to so many factors, a lot of which are beyond the airlines' control.
Jul 20, 2015, 8:41 pm
#80
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I'm curious to find out if AA were to devalue their program, and everybody purchased based on price, how screwed the legacy carriers would be. I think that's a scary bet Delta/United are making... If the industry becomes even more price driven, PRASM will drop and LCCs will thrive. Especially JetBlue, if recent numbers + Mint is any indicator.
The program that is looking really attractive now is Alaska. Slowly, this relatively smaller airline has built a pretty good program with AA, DAL, EK, CX as some of its partners.
Jul 20, 2015, 8:46 pm
#81
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AA seems to be learning from DL.
Specifically, the changes in SDC. MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE than DL. And, they weren't announced, just slipped in overnight.
Specifically, the changes in SDC. MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE than DL. And, they weren't announced, just slipped in overnight.
Jul 22, 2015, 10:33 pm
#85
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I am doing this trip on united... Let's just say I am glad that United has followed delta on the FF program. I am not doing a work trip, but a new consulting job for a group out of CHI. I will be back on Saturday morning. Flying without any status on this trip is horrible. Making the transition to AA for a few months until I make the status challenge will not be easy.On Sunday, on Delta, I fly out to Albany. It will be a lot better flying with status.
Jul 23, 2015, 5:04 am
#86
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I am doing this trip on united... Let's just say I am glad that United has followed delta on the FF program. I am not doing a work trip, but a new consulting job for a group out of CHI. I will be back on Saturday morning. Flying without any status on this trip is horrible. Making the transition to AA for a few months until I make the status challenge will not be easy.On Sunday, on Delta, I fly out to Albany. It will be a lot better flying with status.
A truly, top 0.1%employee
Jul 23, 2015, 5:14 am
#87
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I am ready to move with my wallet and not just with my posts.Who is up for moving their loyalty to AA from delta. This is my thought. I am a diamond with delta. I am willing to status challenge to AA to platinum level.
I think if we can get enough diamonds to transfer to AA we may be able to negotiate a better deal. Discuss....
I think if we can get enough diamonds to transfer to AA we may be able to negotiate a better deal. Discuss....
I have a few words for you...don't let the door hit you. I mean, these weekly 'who's leaving Delta' threads need to be compiled into one sub thread. If you want to leave, good for you. Leave and enjoy AA. I will certainly enjoy less competition for upgrades so the more the merrier. However, keep this thought in mind; AA is maybe a year, two at best, away from beginning the decimation of the aadvantage program. Also, enjoy those angled flat bed seats in J on most 777's and 767's. It will be very nostalgic, sort of like stepping into a time machine. Enjoy and bye
Jul 23, 2015, 5:17 am
#88
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At least with Delta, you get a solid product. AA is still flying in the 90's. Good luck folks.
Jul 23, 2015, 7:05 am
#89
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For me, it has become a simple task of deciding where to burn and where to earn. All of my travel is personal, no longer business with expenses paid by someone else. So, after having moved to Key Biscayne, FL, I find AA has more to offer me than DL.
I am burning through all of my DL miles (down from 4 million once upon a time, now to 500,000) - and using them for very affordable business class trips to Europe from Miami on Virgin Atlantic. And moved earn from DL SkyMiles AX card to Starwood AX (with the 25% bonus to move to either AA or DL, but chose AA with the extra 5000 AAdvantage points per 25000 transferred!)
Embarked on Platinum challenge with AA and will make it with paid J AA marketed and flight number/BA metal J class ticket JNB-LHR-YUL in August!
Have now 750,000 AA miles to spend and enjoy.
When you retire, every day is a holiday or weekend!! YEA
I am burning through all of my DL miles (down from 4 million once upon a time, now to 500,000) - and using them for very affordable business class trips to Europe from Miami on Virgin Atlantic. And moved earn from DL SkyMiles AX card to Starwood AX (with the 25% bonus to move to either AA or DL, but chose AA with the extra 5000 AAdvantage points per 25000 transferred!)
Embarked on Platinum challenge with AA and will make it with paid J AA marketed and flight number/BA metal J class ticket JNB-LHR-YUL in August!
Have now 750,000 AA miles to spend and enjoy.
When you retire, every day is a holiday or weekend!! YEA
Jul 23, 2015, 7:11 am
#90
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For me, it has become a simple task of deciding where to burn and where to earn. All of my travel is personal, no longer business with expenses paid by someone else. So, after having moved to Key Biscayne, FL, I find AA has more to offer me than DL.
I am burning through all of my DL miles (down from 4 million once upon a time, now to 500,000) - and using them for very affordable business class trips to Europe from Miami on Virgin Atlantic. And moved earn from DL SkyMiles AX card to Starwood AX (with the 25% bonus to move to either AA or DL, but chose AA with the extra 5000 AAdvantage points per 25000 transferred!)
Embarked on Platinum challenge with AA and will make it with paid J AA marketed and flight number/BA metal J class ticket JNB-LHR-YUL in August!
Have now 750,000 AA miles to spend and enjoy.
When you retire, every day is a holiday or weekend!! YEA
I am burning through all of my DL miles (down from 4 million once upon a time, now to 500,000) - and using them for very affordable business class trips to Europe from Miami on Virgin Atlantic. And moved earn from DL SkyMiles AX card to Starwood AX (with the 25% bonus to move to either AA or DL, but chose AA with the extra 5000 AAdvantage points per 25000 transferred!)
Embarked on Platinum challenge with AA and will make it with paid J AA marketed and flight number/BA metal J class ticket JNB-LHR-YUL in August!
Have now 750,000 AA miles to spend and enjoy.
When you retire, every day is a holiday or weekend!! YEA