SJC ORD LDR

Considering that WN does not serve seven states, it's a stretch to say that they are on par with the legacies that serve 48 or 49 states.

Peter T.

How do the legacies serve all these states? With their crews and aircraft or subcontracted out to regional airlines and their less qualified and more overworked crews with aircraft that might not be as well maintained?

If one compares the number of destinations served by the legacies with their actual crews and aircraft (excluding destinations solely served by affiliated regional airlines) and the number of destinations served by WN (who does not use any regional airlines to expand their network), then it's more comparable in scope.

SJC ORD LDR

Even remote places like Montana see mainline DL service now. Plus regionals allow service into cities that can't handle mainline planes. It works. I wonder if AA will follow DL and start adding more small mainline planes?

pbarnette

I'm not sure it would be possible to go further in twisting facts to support a hypothesis. I mean, short of saying "how many destinations do the legacies serve with mainline aircraft owned and operated by WN."

Fact: the legacies can get you many, many places WN can't. It simply isn't a controversial statement. Now, one could argue that many of those small destinations are not worth visiting (heck, I think I've said just that on occasion), but it is not disputable that WN does not serve anywhere close to the number of destinations the legacies do.

ijgordon

How is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you say stuff like that?

And this is all very deja vu re: "arguments" 3-5 years ago, when DL had loads and loads of 2-2-2 767s with awful recliner seats while AA had moved to flat at a slight angle, with good opportunities to upgrade to F.

And now some folks are saying they can't think out more than a few months and don't want to give credit to what an airline is "thinking" of doing (never mind that they're already doing it)? Really a lot of disingenuity here.

javabytes

I'll also add that while AA is more of a mixed bag internationally when it comes to hard product, domestically F and very often MCE are much more spacious than their DL counterparts.

Navig8R

Can someone compare/contrast the flushing mechanism in the FC lav between the DL/AA MD-88? I enjoy the suction provided on the DL MD-88, but it is sometimes a little too intense. If anyone can confirm that the flush on an AA bird is a less powerful, I will be taking my business (and status) to AA. Thanks in advance

DYKWIA2014

Don't let the toilet seat hit you in the a$$ on the way out the door to AA.

Esltroy

I have heard that AA only has one-ply toilet paper. Can someone confirm this before I switch over? Or will it be.. if you want double-ply bring double ply. WDBD

pbarnette

The competitive landscape was quite different 3-5 years ago. What was competitive then is not competitive today.

The AA seats are at more than a "slight" angle.

AA F isn't really F. And I for one don't see much value in even real F - I drink champagne at home and regularly eat better than anything offered on any airline in any class. I want a flat bed for J prices (or Y with an upgrade), not a flat bed for J prices + some co-payment in miles or instruments.

It is more than a few months. Completion is still 18 months away. In the interim, I will base my purchasing decisions on what they currently offer. In 18 months, I can choose to fly them or not, again based on what they offer. You, of course, are free to fly them today with the hopes that it will somehow mean some consideration when they once again offer a competitive product.

I would agree. Your post is incredibly disingenuous.

Widgets

Do AA employees advertise their pre-merger employer, or how do people determine who they used to work for? genuinely curious

serfty

Here's what AA says about snacks:

http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...main-cabin.jsp

http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...mium-cabin.jsp

kop84

I do not believe that the flight crews are integrated yet and the pUS planes have not been repainted, so pAA and pUS would still each be flying their own perspective metal.

lovecabo

So a few weeks ago I got fed up with the high cost of flying Delta, and started to look for flights based on price and not loyalty (it should never be one way). I had an ATL-BOS coming up and bought a combo of AA and US(AA). Yes, I had to make a connection (via LGA), but when i flew up this morning, as an AA 1MM, I ended up getting, without asking or expecting, upgrades on both flights. Be interested to see if the two US flights to get home tomorrow will also be upgraded. FYI, the two upgrades this morning are double my total DL upgrades this year (only 1). And this is the first time I've flown AA in five years! In two weeks I'll be back on DL, but then the following week trying AS. I'm sorta liking this freedom.

lovecabo

I did notice on my LGA-BOS US flight this morning that the pilot said, "Thanks for flying American Airlines".