Sky Club Access (2009 - June 2022)
#601
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Embarrassed at the basic question, but I just can’t find an answer.
My friends with no status nor an AMEX card that gives them SC access are traveling in First Class LAX-SJD and they are wondering if they have SC access at LAX.
The DL website says you have access on flights to Mexico and most other international destinations as a DeltaOne passenger, but no mention about First Class.
My friends with no status nor an AMEX card that gives them SC access are traveling in First Class LAX-SJD and they are wondering if they have SC access at LAX.
The DL website says you have access on flights to Mexico and most other international destinations as a DeltaOne passenger, but no mention about First Class.
#602
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
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Embarrassed at the basic question, but I just can’t find an answer.
My friends with no status nor an AMEX card that gives them SC access are traveling in First Class LAX-SJD and they are wondering if they have SC access at LAX.
The DL website says you have access on flights to Mexico and most other international destinations as a DeltaOne passenger, but no mention about First Class.
My friends with no status nor an AMEX card that gives them SC access are traveling in First Class LAX-SJD and they are wondering if they have SC access at LAX.
The DL website says you have access on flights to Mexico and most other international destinations as a DeltaOne passenger, but no mention about First Class.
#603
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,057
Embarrassed at the basic question, but I just can’t find an answer.
My friends with no status nor an AMEX card that gives them SC access are traveling in First Class LAX-SJD and they are wondering if they have SC access at LAX.
The DL website says you have access on flights to Mexico and most other international destinations as a DeltaOne passenger, but no mention about First Class.
My friends with no status nor an AMEX card that gives them SC access are traveling in First Class LAX-SJD and they are wondering if they have SC access at LAX.
The DL website says you have access on flights to Mexico and most other international destinations as a DeltaOne passenger, but no mention about First Class.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190215...ky-club/access
https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 26, 2019 at 2:14 pm
#604
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Hmm, just noticed they made a recent change to the Delta site in the last few weeks. Many people assumed that these flights qualified for lounge access as a "Skyteam Premium Cabin" international flight. But DL has now added clarification text which specifically excludes DL operated flights from that section.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190215...ky-club/access
https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
https://web.archive.org/web/20190215...ky-club/access
https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
#605
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Yes, I have been part of those discussions and agreed that they should get access previously. But that was before the very recent change to the website which appears to make it clear that they are not entitled to access and have to be on a D1 flight when flying DL for access. Did you bother to look at it? I've looked at that page often enough to know the "(excluding Delta)" part was new and archive.org confirmed it was a very recent change.
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 26, 2019 at 2:24 pm
#606
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BUR
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Yes, I have been part of those discussions and agreed that they should get access previously. But that was before the very recent change to the website which appears to make it clear that they are not entitled to access and have to be on a D1 flight when flying DL for access. Did you bother to look at it? I've looked at that page often enough to know the "(excluding Delta)" part was new and archive.org confirmed it was a very recent change.
According to the just-changed DL website, it specifies D1 passengers, with no mention of any other class, get SC access if they're flying DL Canada or Mexico flights. But there are no D1 seats on any of those flights. Not even the premium JFK-MEX seats are considered D1, just FC.
I've noticed JFK-SNN flights highest class is PS! Will the JFK lounge dragons tell the passengers who plopped down thousands of dollars for the best seats on the plane to get lost?
#607
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 3,097
There have been zero reports of passengers with F tickets to Canada or Mexico being denied club entry and many reports of success. So, it's probably just bad info on the website.
#608
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,057
Have I actually stumped FT?
According to the just-changed DL website, it specifies D1 passengers, with no mention of any other class, get SC access if they're flying DL Canada or Mexico flights. But there are no D1 seats on any of those flights. Not even the premium JFK-MEX seats are considered D1, just FC.
I've noticed JFK-SNN flights highest class is PS! Will the JFK lounge dragons tell the passengers who plopped down thousands of dollars for the best seats on the plane to get lost?
According to the just-changed DL website, it specifies D1 passengers, with no mention of any other class, get SC access if they're flying DL Canada or Mexico flights. But there are no D1 seats on any of those flights. Not even the premium JFK-MEX seats are considered D1, just FC.
I've noticed JFK-SNN flights highest class is PS! Will the JFK lounge dragons tell the passengers who plopped down thousands of dollars for the best seats on the plane to get lost?
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 27, 2019 at 10:58 am
#609
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BUR
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Did you look at the before and after shots on the web site I posted? There was much discussion on this issue recently as a number of people noticed that "Sky Club" was no longer showing on their BP for trans-border F flights to Canada. However, there had been absolutely no changes to the website wording, so many questioned whether there had been an actual change in policy (including myself). Now, post these discussions on FT, there has been an actual change on the Delta website in the last few weeks. See how they added the words "(excluding Delta)"? See the date on the archive.org snapshot? Given this update on the website, this certainly implies an actual change in policy. As I noted, the previous wording left it somewhat ambiguous as these Delta flights could be considered "SkyTeam Premium Cabin" international flights and apparently Delta did previously qualify them on that basis. The wording change pretty much removes any ambiguity by adding the words "(excluding Delta)".
While there might have been zero reports of FC passengers being denied SC access, perhaps this will change as the wording of the website has just changed. It would be nice if there can be reports of those who got in or not starting from only a few days ago. I've been unable to give my friends a definitive answer. They'll try in about a week and a half and I'll report the outcome here.
#610
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These responses are contradictory. I did look at and compare the screenshots. As it's technically written starting from I guess a few days ago, it seems now SC access is NOT to be granted on DL Canada and Mexico flights (unless any of them happen to be labeling the premium cabin "Delta One" which none are).
While there might have been zero reports of FC passengers being denied SC access, perhaps this will change as the wording of the website has just changed. It would be nice if there can be reports of those who got in or not starting from only a few days ago. I've been unable to give my friends a definitive answer. They'll try in about a week and a half and I'll report the outcome here.
While there might have been zero reports of FC passengers being denied SC access, perhaps this will change as the wording of the website has just changed. It would be nice if there can be reports of those who got in or not starting from only a few days ago. I've been unable to give my friends a definitive answer. They'll try in about a week and a half and I'll report the outcome here.
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 27, 2019 at 1:48 pm
#611
Join Date: Nov 1999
Programs: SPEBSQSA
Posts: 3,489
No Canada/Mexico in SLC
Since it has not been yet reported, SLC club is denying access to Canada and Mexico First passenger unless you have a membership.
She was nice and let me in anyway.
She was nice and let me in anyway.
#612
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: BNA
Programs: DL GM, HH Diamond
Posts: 1,027
Unless you are on a SkyTeam flight (excluding Delta) it has to be Delta One international flight, not first, right? I mean unless you are GM (Elite+) or higher in which case cabin is irrelevant. Or am I missing something?
#614
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For many years DL applied the Skyteam rules for "premium cabin" passengers and permitted FC pax on Canada/Mex/Central America/etc. (but not the Caribbean) flights to enter the Sky Clubs even those these aren't D1 flights. They recently updated the website a few weeks ago (see change above), to specifically exclude DL operated flights from the Skyteam rules for lounge entrance for premium cabin pax. So, unless you are a DL Skyteam Elite Plus, you can now only enter the lounges when you are in a D1 cabin on DL operated flights.
Last edited by xliioper; Apr 11, 2019 at 9:43 am
#615
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: BNA
Programs: DL GM, HH Diamond
Posts: 1,027
For many years DL applied the Skyteam rules for "premium cabin" passengers and permitted FC pax on Canada/Mex/Central America/etc. (but not the Caribbean) flights to enter the Sky Clubs even those these aren't D1 flights. They recently updated the website a few weeks ago (see change above), to specifically exclude DL operated flights from the Skyteam rules for lounge entrance for premium cabin pax. So, unless you a DL Skyteam Elite Plus, you can now only enter the lounges when you are in a D1 cabin on DL operated flights.