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Old Jun 12, 2015, 7:09 pm
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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Old Mar 16, 2017, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by scongro
Doesn't affect me personally as a DM (and I'm expecting to drop next year but will be at least Gold). My problem with the program was the idiotic change that in order to actually do the change (in Y) you have to have inventory in your fare bucket to make the change. Personally, that killed the whole thing for me.

I'd rather them change this to $100 and bring back the ability to change as long as a seat was available - that was the whole good part of the program. I'd even be open to this and exclude LUTV fares.
If you're already on a K+ fare, just buying up to the necessary class may at times be in the $100 range anyway.
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Old Mar 16, 2017, 7:28 pm
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I wish it would stay at $50 or even $25 for FOs. I'm just a lowly FO but a SDC does come in handy now and then...
Sorry but FOs are a dime a dozen. It just isn't a level that means much to DL.
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Old Mar 16, 2017, 9:19 pm
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Originally Posted by kop84
Some of the reason that we don't get much advanced notice on things like this goes back to the Signaling Lawsuit against Delta and Airtran over the first checked bag fee.
Well, there's a big difference between giving advanced notice (i.e. announcing a policy that will take effect at a later date), and publicly speculating on possible policy changes or competitor's actions.

That being said, I don't see how advanced notice would have helped consumers at all, other than to delay the start of the fee hike.
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Can this sentence in the wiki be updated to reflect the fee change for tickets issued on or after March 15, 2017?
SDS costs $50 but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+)
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 9:44 pm
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Can this sentence in the wiki be updated to reflect the fee change for tickets issued on or after March 15, 2017?
Your wish is my command. Wiki updated.
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Widgets
Can this sentence in the wiki be updated to reflect the fee change for tickets issued on or after March 15, 2017?
Oops, I made the edit for SDC but forgot SDS. However it looks like gooselee just beat me to fixing it.

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Oops, I made the edit for SDC but forgot SDS. However it looks like gooselee just beat me to fixing it.

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Okay. Would standby upgrade to Comfort+ be relevant to this thread?
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Originally Posted by Widgets
Okay. Would standby upgrade to Comfort+ be relevant to this thread?
While we can argue about it being an upgrade all day, it's an upgrade not SDS. More relevant would be SDS when in C+.
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Oops, I made the edit for SDC but forgot SDS. However it looks like gooselee just beat me to fixing it.

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I don't know if Widgets is old enough or posts enough to edit the Wiki!
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
While we can argue about it being an upgrade all day, it's an upgrade not SDS. More relevant would be SDS when in C+.
I just thought since standby upgrade to First Class is part of the wiki, that standby upgrade to Comfort+ would be too. [I didn't clarify I was talking about paid standby, not complimentary Medallion upgrades to Comfort+.]
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 2:24 pm
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Co-Terminal Same Day Change Question

So I've read quite a bit about SDC rules, but what I'm trying to do is more complicated than I've ever tried before so I figured I'd ask.

Flying BWI-MSP-SEA-PVG next month.

I have applied a GUC and all segments have now cleared.

Am I able to SDC to a flight from DCA (instead of BWI) to get to MSP, if there is first class available on the DCA flight?
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
On my routes, the cheapest FC fare that day is sometimes the same price as economy on the flight I want. That's when I usually utilize SDC. I will also occasionally switch to a longer routing to pick up some extra MQMs if I have time.

I will say that I'm surprised that Delta hasn't banned SDCs onto routings that include a D1 segment.
Was just going to ask about this - is it possible to SDC from JFK-LAS to JFK-LAX-LAS?
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by steveholt
Was just going to ask about this - is it possible to SDC from JFK-LAS to JFK-LAX-LAS?
Changing from a nonstop to a connecting flight is permitted if the fare rule permits the new routing.
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by DCADeltaRoadWarrior
So I've read quite a bit about SDC rules, but what I'm trying to do is more complicated than I've ever tried before so I figured I'd ask.

Flying BWI-MSP-SEA-PVG next month.

I have applied a GUC and all segments have now cleared.

Am I able to SDC to a flight from DCA (instead of BWI) to get to MSP, if there is first class available on the DCA flight?
International tickets must include domestic stand-alone (broken) fares for SDC eligibility. Without a broken fare on your domestic portion, your origin would be outside of the SDC program rules.
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