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Old Jun 12, 2015, 7:09 pm
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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Old Oct 26, 2016, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Start_at_UIN
on a 12:35AM FRI redeye LAX>MSP>STL can I SDC to a 9PM THUR flight LAX>SLC>ATL>STL that arrives approx. the same time?
Technically, no, because of the change of date (and possibly routing rules).

Practically speaking, maybe yes depending on the agent/supervisor you get.

EDIT: I re-did the wiki to cover this and most other FAQs and removed what was mostly cut-and-paste from the DL page since there is a link to it anyway. Corrections/additions welcome!

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Old Oct 27, 2016, 4:19 am
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turned out no, because of the fare difference of $1000.00
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Originally Posted by Start_at_UIN
turned out no, because of the fare difference of $1000.00
It just means that since it was different day of departure you're doing a normal change and not SDC/S. Fare difference has nothing to do with SDC being allowed.

I frequently book the cheapest F ticket and SDC then to the in some cases much more expensive routing.
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SDC fees waived for companions?

Flying JFK-SJU early next Winter when I will be PM on Delta.
Flight booked with no status companion on same PNR #.

Would we be able to SDC to different flights (assuming availability) and have delta waive the $50 fee for my companion?

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Originally Posted by mridley2
Flying JFK-SJU early next Winter when I will be PM on Delta.
Flight booked with no status companion on same PNR #.

Would we be able to SDC to different flights (assuming availability) and have delta waive the $50 fee for my companion?

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Puerto Rico is listed as SDC eligible. Waived SDC fee for companion appears to vary but can't hurt to ask.
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Generally if your companion is not GM or higher, then you'd have to pay the SDC fee for them.
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Originally Posted by mridley2
Flying JFK-SJU early next Winter when I will be PM on Delta.
Flight booked with no status companion on same PNR #.

Would we be able to SDC to different flights (assuming availability) and have delta waive the $50 fee for my companion?

Thanks
Technically you have to pay. Some agents will waive it without asking.

Eg I have had some agents process the change and send me to the survey without asking for payment. Once they do ask - if it is a voluntary change - I don't ask for a "waiver" because there really is no justification to do so.

In my experience it is 50/50 whether the agents asks for payment of the companion sdc fee.
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So I'm trying to change ANC>MSP>DTW>STL to ANC>MSP>STL and the agents keep telling me I can't change from a connect to a non-stop. In my mind it would only be a non-stop if I was asking to change to ANC>STL, so I *should* be able to make that change, correct? HUCA?
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Originally Posted by Start_at_UIN
So I'm trying to change ANC>MSP>DTW>STL to ANC>MSP>STL and the agents keep telling me I can't change from a connect to a non-stop. In my mind it would only be a non-stop if I was asking to change to ANC>STL, so I *should* be able to make that change, correct? HUCA?
If ANC-MSP-STL is one flight number then it's considered nonstop in the eyes of the system. You should be able to change to it, but it'll require an agent willing to go above and beyond. Most people and even agents don't seem to understand the difference between direct and nonstop.
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
If ANC-MSP-STL is one flight number then it's considered nonstop in the eyes of the system. You should be able to change to it, but it'll require an agent willing to go above and beyond. Most people and even agents don't seem to understand the difference between direct and nonstop.
I think you mean ANC-MSP-STL would be direct if all one flight #.

Most likely a misinformed agent. However, I could also see a situation where you were sold a broken fare ANC-MSP then MSP-DTW-STL. Technically you would then be SDCing the 1-stop MSP-DTW-STL to a nonstop MSP-STL.
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Originally Posted by gooselee
I think you mean ANC-MSP-STL would be direct if all one flight #.

Most likely a misinformed agent. However, I could also see a situation where you were sold a broken fare ANC-MSP then MSP-DTW-STL. Technically you would then be SDCing the 1-stop MSP-DTW-STL to a nonstop MSP-STL.
5 different HUCA and they all say I can't do it without paying the fare difference. I'm just going to wait and try in the SC in the AM.
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Old Nov 11, 2016, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Start_at_UIN
5 different HUCA and they all say I can't do it without paying the fare difference. I'm just going to wait and try in the SC in the AM.
Do you know if your same fare class is available on the shorter routing?
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Old Nov 11, 2016, 2:57 pm
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Do you know if your same fare class is available on the shorter routing?
I'm not sure. When I go to book, I choose V or higher and it shows Q. My original is V.
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Old Nov 11, 2016, 3:00 pm
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that means they're not selling V (advance purchase restrictions perhaps), but doesn't necessarily mean that V inventory isn't available for SDC purposes
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Old Nov 11, 2016, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Start_at_UIN
5 different HUCA and they all say I can't do it without paying the fare difference. I'm just going to wait and try in the SC in the AM.
There'za SkyClub in ANC?

If you're leaving tonight, there's no married segment V class availability from ANC/MSP/STL using the 9:25 AM MSP to STL flight.

But, there IS 1 seat left in V from MSP/STL, so, if it's still available when you get to MSP, they might let you do it if you don't have checked luggage.

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