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Old Jun 12, 2015, 7:09 pm
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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Old Sep 25, 2016, 8:46 pm
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Thanks for the quick replies. Didn't consider confirmed pax without seat assignments.

The route is ATL-MDW.
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SDC Questions

I have a flight I booked using frequent flyer miles from a Gold member account on a Delta Alaska Codeshare. I have a couple questions regarding SDC:

Can i do a SDC from an Alaska Codeshare to a Delta Flight?
Can I SDC to any flight that might have a Skymile Award available- no matter what level?
Do I need to pay the $50 fee or since the miles came from the account of a Gold Medallion member is the fee waived ?

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Originally Posted by holocker
I have a flight I booked using frequent flyer miles from a Gold member account on a Delta Alaska Codeshare. I have a couple questions regarding SDC:

Can i do a SDC from an Alaska Codeshare to a Delta Flight?
Can I SDC to any flight that might have a Skymile Award available- no matter what level?
Do I need to pay the $50 fee or since the miles came from the account of a Gold Medallion member is the fee waived ?

Thanks
I don't know what you mean by DL AS codeshare, but it sounds like you have a DL ticket. If so, you can call DL to SDC from an AS flight to a DL operated flight, but you cannot SDC onto a flight operated by AS, even if your original flight was operated by AS.

Assuming you're in coach, you need the same low or whatever coach award inventory. Technically you cannot even pay more miles to get another flight because of the 72 hour rule for changing or cancelling award tickets.
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Old Sep 26, 2016, 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by holocker

Can i do a SDC from an Alaska Codeshare to a Delta Flight? Yes, once you switch to a DL flight however there's no going back, it's only oneway.

Can I SDC to any flight that might have a Skymile Award available- no matter what level? No, you need to have the same level. Exception is for F/J class. Those follow the normal F SDC policy and just require an open seat.

Do I need to pay the $50 fee or since the miles came from the account of a Gold Medallion member is the fee waived ? Yes you need to pay for SDC. However if there's two of you on the same reservation (not separate) and one is at least GM, then they generally won't charge it for the non-GM+ members.

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Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by Zorak
Did your original flight already clear into F? (It sounds like it since you talk about wasting a cert) If so then you have F SDC privileges and the agent you spoke with was wrong, HUCA.

(From your message it seems clear you are using a certificate, which may be worth adding the 3rd letter in the abbreviation as RUC, since RU is the inventory bucket for comp Medallion upgrades and does *not* get F SDC privileges.)
Here's another combination of RUC/SDC that I'm wondering about: I've got a two segment trip where the second segment pre-cleared, but the first segment is standby for F. How does SDC work for that?

I'd like to do an SDC for the entire flight (both segments), but am I right in assuming that I can't do that unless there's both a free F seat on segment 2 and fare class availability on segment 1?
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Originally Posted by anon2k2
Here's another combination of RUC/SDC that I'm wondering about: I've got a two segment trip where the second segment pre-cleared, but the first segment is standby for F. How does SDC work for that?

I'd like to do an SDC for the entire flight (both segments), but am I right in assuming that I can't do that unless there's both a free F seat on segment 2 and fare class availability on segment 1?
That's my understanding. I remembered sethb had a similar situation earlier this year, although in his case he hadn't cleared the important segment yet: Using RUC when already upgraded
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I booked my ticket through Delta on an Alaska Codeshare flight. When I called to ask about SDC I was told I cannot change since it I booked a codeshare flight.

Is this correct?
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Originally Posted by holocker
I booked my ticket through Delta on an Alaska Codeshare flight. When I called to ask about SDC I was told I cannot change since it I booked a codeshare flight.

Is this correct?
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
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you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
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Don't know if this is for all Alaska Codeshare flights only but these are the answers I got when trying to do an SDC for a flight tomorrow.

I booked the flight on Delta's website using my Delta Skymiles and booked an Alaska codeshare flight. I was told if I wanted to switch to a Delta flight I would need to pay the regular $150 change fee plus an additional 7,500 miles.

On Alaska airlines website it would allow me to change flights to a later flight for a $50 fee, but only nonstop and the only other flight was too late.
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Originally Posted by holocker
Don't know if this is for all Alaska Codeshare flights only but these are the answers I got when trying to do an SDC for a flight tomorrow.

I booked the flight on Delta's website using my Delta Skymiles and booked an Alaska codeshare flight. I was told if I wanted to switch to a Delta flight I would need to pay the regular $150 change fee plus an additional 7,500 miles.

On Alaska airlines website it would allow me to change flights to a later flight for a $50 fee, but only nonstop and the only other flight was too late.
That would be correct if the same inventory wasn't available. You would need to pay the to change to a fare that would allow booking on the new DL flight. You should have been able to do SDS also, provided it was an earlier flight or you're GM or higher allowing for SDS to later flights. Of course can't change routing with SDS, and can't switch to a nonstop from connection for either SDC/S.
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Question about SDC from ATL stopover to JFK stopover

I'm flying LAX-ATL-BOS next week in first, overnight. I'm wondering if I would be allowed to SDC to a flight that went LAX-JFK-BOS instead. Both flights form LAX are on lie-flats, although Delta probably calls it first on the LAX-ATL and D1 on the LAX-JFK. Making the change would get me home two hours earlier. Here in Boston, the agent in the SkyClub told me that you have to maintain the same routing (must change in ATL), but a quick reading of the rules doesn't answer that question for me. I know you can't change arrival airports in the same city (JFK to LGA) and can't change from a routing with stopovers to a nonstop, but this is neither of those. I searched this thread for a while and couldn't find the answer--sorry if it's burred in its many pages.
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by cnc2002
I'm flying LAX-ATL-BOS next week in first, overnight. I'm wondering if I would be allowed to SDC to a flight that went LAX-JFK-BOS instead. Both flights form LAX are on lie-flats, although Delta probably calls it first on the LAX-ATL and D1 on the LAX-JFK. Making the change would get me home two hours earlier. Here in Boston, the agent in the SkyClub told me that you have to maintain the same routing (must change in ATL), but a quick reading of the rules doesn't answer that question for me. I know you can't change arrival airports in the same city (JFK to LGA) and can't change from a routing with stopovers to a nonstop, but this is neither of those. I searched this thread for a while and couldn't find the answer--sorry if it's burred in its many pages.
"no-routing-changes" limitation is for same-day standby (SDS)

same-day confirmed (SDC) permits routing changes, and JFK is a valid connection for LAX-BOS; therefore as long as the flight you want has an open D1 seat, you should be able to SDC with no issues
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by cnc2002
I'm flying LAX-ATL-BOS next week in first, overnight. I'm wondering if I would be allowed to SDC to a flight that went LAX-JFK-BOS instead. Both flights form LAX are on lie-flats, although Delta probably calls it first on the LAX-ATL and D1 on the LAX-JFK. Making the change would get me home two hours earlier. Here in Boston, the agent in the SkyClub told me that you have to maintain the same routing (must change in ATL), but a quick reading of the rules doesn't answer that question for me. I know you can't change arrival airports in the same city (JFK to LGA) and can't change from a routing with stopovers to a nonstop, but this is neither of those. I searched this thread for a while and couldn't find the answer--sorry if it's burred in its many pages.
The Boston SkyClub agent's words are only relevant for same day standby.

If you are ticketed in first, you can change to any routing provided a seat is available in first on the flights you want, starting 24 hours before your initially ticketed departure time.

Technically the fare rules need to allow your connection point, but I am 99.9% confident saying LAX-BOS can use either ATL, MSP, JFK, or DTW as connecting points.

Don't ask SkyClub agents as they may leave clueless notes in your PNR. Call your reservations line before and request the same day confirm to the flights you want and be done with it. Enjoy the flights!
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Old Oct 13, 2016, 1:21 pm
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Yes that is valid routing, and I've taken the LAX-JFK-BOS redeye before. As you are holding a F ticket for LAX-ATL-BOS, you should be allowed to SDC over to the routing you want, although it may depend on the agent you get since it will probably be a manual reissue. If you aren't a GM or higher, it will also be a $50 fee to change.

I'm also surprised at the bad info from the BOS skyclub agent... in my experience they are very knowledgeable and helpful there, although I have seen some new faces so perhaps it was one of them.
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