SNAGuy

In terminal 3 now and this place is getting to be like a ghost town. Stores empty with others running sales so they don't have to move inventory, that's if they will also operate out of terminal 4.

Had an interesting conversation with a longtime sky club agent and I asked if terminal 2 will cease to exit in 5 years and they said much sooner. So, if this person is "in the know" somehow then there's a good reason the walkway between 2 and 4 was scrapped.

Now the only question is are airlines moving out of 4 to other terminals that can handle international arrivals or will there be more construction going on.

It would be great to have all operations at JFK to all be in one terminal and a fairly new one at that too.

vatraveler

There were theories on another airline board that DL is indeed working with the Port Authority to move some airlines around and get more T4 space for themselves...and that this would lead to the death of T2 within 2-3 years.

TWA Fan 1

I was in JFK T2 yesterday, on my way to DFW. I had a short conversation with the agent in the SkyClub who told me that the rumors he has been hearing is that currently DL is planning to keep T2 operating for about another 8 to 10 years.

MSPeconomist

That's a long time to force people to use the shuttle bus between terminals. So much for DL winning NYC unless they expect other airlines such as the merged AA/US to really mess up.

TWA Fan 1

Agreed. And even without the airside shuttle, T2 is about as dreadful a facility as can be imagined...

adamj023

JetBlue is moving its remaining flights out of T4 and into T5i which is not finished yet. How many gates would this alone free up? Also British Airways is a huge player at T7 and it will be moving to a new pier at T8 in all likelyhood so that frees up a lot of space at Terminal 7.

So I do predict T2 will get phased out when other construction projects are finalized.

vatraveler

Doubtful.

adamj023

Immigrations and customs will be added to T5i and it gets 3 new gates as well.

So I guess that is 3 gates additional for Delta/Delta SkyTeam at T4 as well as a less congested Immigrations and customs line.

JetBlue's entire operations will be at T5/T5i. Delta's entire operations will be at T4 as soon as other carriers like JetBlue vacate the terminal. I don't know if they need new construction or not further than what is announced after other carriers vacate.

itsaboutthejourney

T2 will go away sooner than that. The reason for the new buses is because they couldn't justify the expense of a connector that would only be in use for 2-3 years.

spikyone

Just to clarify that security will be moved to before the concourse A/B divide? Does that mean SQ/LX/KL/VA/VS will all share the same security checkpoint? Also, the Oasis lounge, Swiss lounge, Virgin Clubhouse will all be after security now along with the new T4 SC?

fattieonboard

What is the Sky Club hut thingy? Sorry, I can't get the right orientation. It looks like you walk into the front door of the terminal and it's straight ahead on the right towards the T4B concourse.

But what is it? It appears to be a glass wall on one side due to the metal rod along the bottom near the floor. If so, do you walk around it to get into the Sky Priority check-in area? If so, what's in it, the self service check-in kiosks?

Thanks.

itsaboutthejourney

That's not the Sky Club, it's the Sky Priority area. From the curb you will see that large red wall over the masses in the regular lines and walk all the way back to that area. To the right of that glass wall structure is the Sky Priority check in area. That structure helps funnel SP people as they complete check-in and turn right to a dedicated security area or up to the SkyClub. The main security area is to the left of that glass structure.

Hopefully it will all make sense once you see it.

My only concern is the need for a chute or rope line from the curb doors back to that large red Sky Priority wall, but I'm told DL will monitor the need for that.

nycflyer75

It has already been moved when I was there last weekend. Oasis lounge and all other lounges are now behind security. There's about 12 security lanes for all airlines using terminal 4.

FlyAO2

Wonder if they are still on track for a 5/24 opening or running. There has been a rather silent period after a barrage of emails/notices and a quick scan of a few 5/24 flights show them leaving from T3

cptlflyer

I think DL has been pretty clear and consistent that Friday is opening day.