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Deltahater Jan 18, 2013 8:35 am


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20074639)
...and actually further back in this post, but AA can find it if he/she wants.



It is a measly $225 per passenger per year. So DL wants one silver elite to equal 11 average passengers.

DiverDave Jan 18, 2013 8:36 am


Originally Posted by CJKatl (Post 20074271)
We have a corporate booking tool. The last company I worked for had a corporate booking tool. These are two of the ten largest corporations on the planet. The booking tool gives all available flights, but for Southwest, and has a symbol letting you know which is the prefered partner. (Same base tool for both companies.) You are free to choose anyone you want, any flight you want, any price you want. If there is a $100 price difference, you need to explain why you didn't choose the least expensive option. (time, schedule, direct flight, etc.)

I don't know any large companies that don't have similar rules for purchasing travel.

And I work for a very large defense contractor. Under federal rules, we are required to take the cheapest fare period with few exceptions. They generously permit us to pay the difference if we do not take the cheapest fare.

Not to mention (like nearly every corporation on the planet), there is a huge push to reduce travel.

David

dgxoxo Jan 18, 2013 8:37 am


Originally Posted by dgxoxo (Post 20072872)
Did you all resolve whether MQDs would accrue for DL flights purchased on 057/074 stock? If not, I just spoke with someone at the Platinum desk (had called in on a completely unrelated issue), but took this opportunity to ask some questions.

Will we accrue MQDs for DL flights purchased on 057/074 stock? No. The whole point is that Delta has to be able to track the spend. Hence, you have to purchase 006 stock for the MQD to accrue.

A follow up question - will MQDs nevertheless accrue if a flyer has a 057/074 ticket re-issued in 006 stock? Good effing question - the agent did not know the answer, but noted it to push up the chain. Any change fees associated with the reissuance would not count. It is unclear, but more than likely, than any fare difference paid by the flyer would count (net of taxes and government imposed fees). However, it is not known at all whether the original net fare payable on the 057/074 stock would accrue for MQDs.

Please note that in the course of complaining bitterly to the agent about partner redemptions, the very helpful agent noted that a new booking system is being rolled out to the agents (a few are using it already) that will make booking skyteam partner flights easier. I'm not exactly holding my breath on this one, especially since it is not slated to trickle down to delta.com.

The information from my post earlier this morning has been contradicted by a delta representative on twitter. Great. Just great. I asked them to post a clarification on delta.com.

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AA_EXP09 Jan 18, 2013 8:38 am


Originally Posted by Deltahater (Post 20074740)
It is a measly $225 per passenger per year. So DL wants one silver elite to equal 11 average passengers.

Plus some fees that the majority of non status pax (who are the majority) pay I would put it at 10x.
That's much more than average IMO.

bubbashow Jan 18, 2013 8:38 am


Originally Posted by Deltahater (Post 20074740)
It is a measly $225 per passenger per year. So DL wants one silver elite to equal 11 average passengers.

Which one mid-fare coach ticket to Europe from the USA EASILY provides.

Unfortunately, many of the whiners on here would have to spend 6 weekends in-a-row going back and forth to Istanbul to achieve the same.

rylan Jan 18, 2013 8:38 am


Originally Posted by dieuwer2 (Post 20074575)
^

I am not going to hire a secretary to track MQM and MQD for me. A loyalty program should be straightforward and NOT require a degree in higher mathematics or accounting..

Thats part of the problem... they've made it overly complicated. Is the website doing to display MQD now when booking along with miles/mqm? Or is that going to be up to the traveler to guess what is included in the fare and what isn't?

hfink99 Jan 18, 2013 8:40 am


Originally Posted by MR_MAMA (Post 20072066)
I don't think DL is discouraging MR. If you are short your spend you will do a run to meet it at the end of the year. However, now you don't care so much about the cheapest ticket, but you will buy it to meet the sod require,eat. Also. ,oat of us have AMEX and meet or beat the require,net for the waiver so this doesn't even pertain to most of us.

If Delta does not rollover MQDs as well, discouraging MR is EXACTLY what they are doing.

CJKatl Jan 18, 2013 8:40 am


Originally Posted by FlyDeltaJets87 (Post 20074692)
Well it helps that you work with a large company... I will.

That would drive me nuts.

IME, companies have realized the people whose jobs are just to find savings in travel cost more than what they save. Employees aren't wasteful and want to do what's right. Using an honor system and budget responsibility, with occaisional monitoring, seems to work much better.

FlyDeltaJets87 Jan 18, 2013 8:41 am


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20074525)
I seriously doubt ANY argument with DL on this will have ANY validity. DL is just saying "contribute more than our average passengers, and you will be elite."

The argument that "I want to be Elite, but I am unwilling to pay for it for xxxxx reason" is just comical.

It's just as comical as "I should be Elite because I fly longer distances, even if I pay less to do it". That was how the game was played up till now. And I don't/can't fault anyone for playing the game that way. But the game is changing to reward spending rather than simply flying further. To quote Clint Eastwood from one of my favorite movies "Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome" (Heartbreak Ridge). For once, Delta has given plenty of advance notice to its changes to make the necessary adjustments (or switch to an alternate option) and nothig has been affected for what or how you earned in 2012, with the exception possibly being those who are Diamonds into 2020 or whatever.

bubbashow Jan 18, 2013 8:41 am


Originally Posted by rylan (Post 20074774)
Thats part of the problem... they've made it overly complicated. Is the website doing to display MQD now when booking along with miles/mqm? Or is that going to be up to the traveler to guess what is included in the fare and what isn't?

I guess we will see what changes come to the website to address this in 2014 when it starts counting.

AA_EXP09 Jan 18, 2013 8:41 am


Originally Posted by rylan (Post 20074774)
Thats part of the problem... they've made it overly complicated. Is the website doing to display MQD now when booking along with miles/mqm? Or is that going to be up to the traveler to guess what is included in the fare and what isn't?

And how are they going to put this information on a GDS?
Or are they going to put a section on DL TA site that many won't look at or even after reading are unwilling to communicate this information to pax?
They are bad enough to use on a GDS with 'UNABLE-CONNECTION MARKET UNAVAILABLE DLXXXX AAA-BBB'

hazelrah Jan 18, 2013 8:44 am


Originally Posted by pbarnette (Post 20074704)
To the extent I am "assuming" that what is written means, well, what is written, then I am indeed assuming.

I too see the ambiguity, ambiguity that is easily corrected if so desired.

AA_EXP09 Jan 18, 2013 8:45 am


Originally Posted by bubbashow (Post 20074773)
Which one mid-fare coach ticket to Europe from the USA EASILY provides.

Unfortunately, many of the whiners on here would have to spend 6 weekends in-a-row going back and forth to Istanbul to achieve the same.

Even for an elite that has requalified the CPM isn't good enough to warrant going for RDMs and I have been to Turkey before as a free stopover on a US J redemption.
(They are the only miles that I can touch 4 continents with stopovers on one award)

coinboy66 Jan 18, 2013 8:49 am

There is no question that Delta has a problem with the swelling numbers of Medallions.

I just can't believe they would address this issue by giving myself and other diehard Delta-loyals (who don't pay 7500 a year but ARE INDEED completely loyal) the finger and at the same time allowing people to sit on their butts on December 31 and buy 10,000MQMs without ever going near an airport.

Delta's loyalty is to it's bottom line and to American Express. Tomorrow I'm flying down to FLL (already got my UG) and I have to admit it's going to make me feel pretty awkward knowing that Delta doesn't want me there and can't wait for the day to exclude me from its ranks of elites.

For the rest of you on my flight tomorrow, I'll be the one who bursts out laughing when Richard Anderson says "mutual respect."

As a true Delta supporter and enthusiast...I'm just so disheartened that Delta turned to alienating people like me to make up for their mistakes with AmEx. This whole thing has left a really bad taste in my mouth.

nytracon Jan 18, 2013 8:56 am


Originally Posted by StuartMI (Post 20065919)
I miss NWA and WorldPerks.


AMEN!


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