Using SkyMiles on SkyTeam & Other Partners: The Discussion Thread
Apr 17, 2013, 8:38 am
#241
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I'd be a bit worried that one of the KL flights doesn't show. It's not uncommon for AF/KL to not show all of the DL flights. Typically just the ones you connect to/from. For instance, an upcoming trip of mine is routed OMA-MSP-AMS-BUD with the first two segments on DL. KL only shows the MSP-AMS-BUD sectors. Similarly the return is BUD-AMS-IAD(stop)-ATL-OMA, and DL.dumb (despite this being on 006 stock) doesn't see BUD-AMS. However, the operating carrier should definitely show the flight. You might try tweeting @KLM to see if they can check what's up.
Apr 17, 2013, 8:44 am
#242
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Apr 17, 2013, 1:59 pm
#243
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Thanks for your advice. @KLM said to give them more time to look into it, but the flights are already all showing up on AF.us and only one DL flight missing on KLM.com. That's good enough for me. Thanks again!
Apr 18, 2013, 2:14 pm
#244
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Please help with the routing
Could someone please help to check whether the routing is legal?
Thanks in advance.
AKL-BNE-TPE (CI, stop)-KIX-JFK (CI, destination)-NRT-TPE (DL, open jaw)
All in C.
If valid, how may miles apply to this routing?
I assume it will be 150+120 divided by 2, 135K, correct?
Thanks in advance.
AKL-BNE-TPE (CI, stop)-KIX-JFK (CI, destination)-NRT-TPE (DL, open jaw)
All in C.
If valid, how may miles apply to this routing?
I assume it will be 150+120 divided by 2, 135K, correct?
Apr 18, 2013, 2:47 pm
#245
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Could someone please help to check whether the routing is legal?
Thanks in advance.
AKL-BNE-TPE (CI, stop)-KIX-JFK (CI, destination)-NRT-TPE (DL, open jaw)
All in C.
If valid, how may miles apply to this routing?
I assume it will be 150+120 divided by 2, 135K, correct?
Thanks in advance.
AKL-BNE-TPE (CI, stop)-KIX-JFK (CI, destination)-NRT-TPE (DL, open jaw)
All in C.
If valid, how may miles apply to this routing?
I assume it will be 150+120 divided by 2, 135K, correct?
May 7, 2013, 11:44 am
#246
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Does AF allow TATL upgrades using SkyMiles from Premium Voyageur (S) to Business anymore? Using EF, O which once denoted upgradeble space in Business does not even appear anymore.
May 7, 2013, 11:50 am
#247
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In theory, yes, but there is very little O space available. It's still the right class to upgrade into, just very hard to find TATL.
May 16, 2013, 12:27 pm
#248
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Tarom's helpdesk stated they are changing Business award booking class from Z to O effective Oct 27 2013. AF.us seems not to have implemented this change yet. They also said Economy award booking class stays the same, X.
May 17, 2013, 1:06 am
#249
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I'm not sure where else to put this right now, so I'm going to put it here, since I imagine most interested parties will find it.
DL.dumb states
I am pleased to confirm that this is 100% accurate. I have an award ticket that was originally issued 1 AUG 12. Several changes (I'm thinking four or five) were made prior to beginning travel on 13 MAY 13. The expiration date never budged from 1 AUG 13. Finally, low level F has opened up for my last segment, so I called (via Skype) the PM line from Nelson, NZ, tonight (having already flown the first four of seven segments). When my ticket was reissued (17 MAY 13, SLCRES), the expiration date jumped out to 13 MAY 14, one year from when travel commenced.
I don't know how useful this is for most people in practice, but I do think it is good to know about, especially if you find yourself in the situation with a return that appears unusable because of odd circumstances. The one year can then be from the date you started travelling, not the date you booked. I'm not sure if this also applies to domestic tickets. I suspect it doesn't, but it might.
DL.dumb states
Award Tickets are valid for one year from date of issue. Destinations governed by international tariffs: If portion of original ticket has been used, it is valid for one year from date travel commences at point of origin on original ticket. If no portion of original ticket has been used, ticket validity is one year from the date of issuance of the original ticket. Reissue does not extend ticket validity.
I don't know how useful this is for most people in practice, but I do think it is good to know about, especially if you find yourself in the situation with a return that appears unusable because of odd circumstances. The one year can then be from the date you started travelling, not the date you booked. I'm not sure if this also applies to domestic tickets. I suspect it doesn't, but it might.
Jun 7, 2013, 9:39 am
#250
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Over in the Travel Buzz forum, chornedsnorkack noted that China Southern just took delivery of it's first 787, which is great news. Good write up on it here:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_16557999.htm
Sounds like it may end up on LAX-CAN, which seems to make sense considering how many seats are typically available on that flight. Might not be so good for award availability though. Also of interest is CAN-AKL using the 787 which would be a great award if you can snag LAX-CAN-AKL. Glad to see this, since we all know DL won't be operating a 787 anytime in the near future.
Wonder if we might see it switched in on LAX-CAN for bookings already made?
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_16557999.htm
Sounds like it may end up on LAX-CAN, which seems to make sense considering how many seats are typically available on that flight. Might not be so good for award availability though. Also of interest is CAN-AKL using the 787 which would be a great award if you can snag LAX-CAN-AKL. Glad to see this, since we all know DL won't be operating a 787 anytime in the near future.
Wonder if we might see it switched in on LAX-CAN for bookings already made?
Last edited by roknroll; Jun 7, 2013 at 9:52 am
Jun 13, 2013, 6:45 pm
#251
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Over in the Travel Buzz forum, chornedsnorkack noted that China Southern just took delivery of it's first 787, which is great news. Good write up on it here:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_16557999.htm
Sounds like it may end up on LAX-CAN, which seems to make sense considering how many seats are typically available on that flight. Might not be so good for award availability though. Also of interest is CAN-AKL using the 787 which would be a great award if you can snag LAX-CAN-AKL. Glad to see this, since we all know DL won't be operating a 787 anytime in the near future.
Wonder if we might see it switched in on LAX-CAN for bookings already made?
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_16557999.htm
Sounds like it may end up on LAX-CAN, which seems to make sense considering how many seats are typically available on that flight. Might not be so good for award availability though. Also of interest is CAN-AKL using the 787 which would be a great award if you can snag LAX-CAN-AKL. Glad to see this, since we all know DL won't be operating a 787 anytime in the near future.
Wonder if we might see it switched in on LAX-CAN for bookings already made?
Jun 15, 2013, 12:23 pm
#252
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You can also check for OK award availability in ExpertFlyer. It's Z/E class as specified above.
Jun 15, 2013, 5:42 pm
#253
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Hi all. I just got off the phone with a DL agent, and I'm trying to fly LAX-PPT-AKL and then return SYD-LAX, taking advantage of the stopover/open jaw rules. The phone rep was very helpful, and found the sometimes elusive PPT-AKL space immediately.
Thing is, I have just under 104,000 miles, and the price she quoted me (in economy) was 120k. Is it possible to get this ticket for 100k, or am I going to have to abandon these travel plans? Thanks in advance!
Thing is, I have just under 104,000 miles, and the price she quoted me (in economy) was 120k. Is it possible to get this ticket for 100k, or am I going to have to abandon these travel plans? Thanks in advance!
Jun 15, 2013, 5:54 pm
#255
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OK, thanks for the insight! The DL agent said she thought it was the PPT-AKL leg on TN that was causing it to price higher, but it could very well be the trip on DL metal from SYD to LAX. I've got the itin on hold, so I'll call back and try to find something else for the last leg.