The Definitive "Delta - TSA Pre-Check" thread
May 4, 2012, 7:51 pm
#271
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I have a theory that PreCheck is not as random as we think. That based on the details of a person's history, they adjust the "randomness" of PreCheck. For example, a 2MM with a spotless GE background check would get "randomly" selected 1% of the time. While a brand new customer with a few misdemeanor offences, might get selected 95% of the time.
May 5, 2012, 10:16 am
#272
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: DCA
Programs: DL Diamond, HH Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 553
You've agreed with my point without realize it. TSA has a copy of your AA records (linked to PASSID) so when you fly DL (again, linked to the same PASSID) your PreCheck success rate "should" be the same. As from a risk perspective, you pose the same level of risk regardless of what airline you fly. (i.e. clean background, combined with frequent travel).
May 5, 2012, 11:56 am
#273
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 120
Feel free not to answer if you think this is too personal of a
I have a theory that PreCheck is not as random as we think. That based on the details of a person's history, they adjust the "randomness" of PreCheck. For example, a 2MM with a spotless GE background check would get "randomly" selected 1% of the time. While a brand new customer with a few misdemeanor offences, might get selected 95% of the time.
I have a theory that PreCheck is not as random as we think. That based on the details of a person's history, they adjust the "randomness" of PreCheck. For example, a 2MM with a spotless GE background check would get "randomly" selected 1% of the time. While a brand new customer with a few misdemeanor offences, might get selected 95% of the time.
While I was at my GE interview someone else was denied for driving with an expired emissions sticker on their car. VA classifies it as a class 4 misdemeanor. The DHS agent was telling the guy to appeal but otherwise his hands were tied.
May 5, 2012, 4:53 pm
#275
Join Date: Dec 2008
Programs: Delta Skymiles
Posts: 18
Sorry to disagree there, but, I was in the First Class, Medalion line at LGA when I got to the TSA rep he said Sir, you have been selected.... and i went to the PreCheck line. didn't upack laptop, take off shoes, etc.
I never signed up with the TSA. The only thing I did was give all my info on the delta web site. DM last year, PM this year and just hit Million Miler.
Lenny
I never signed up with the TSA. The only thing I did was give all my info on the delta web site. DM last year, PM this year and just hit Million Miler.
Lenny
May 6, 2012, 3:32 pm
#276
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Charlotte, NC
Programs: AA Exec Plat, RCplatinum, Hyatt diamond
Posts: 196
Pre check
Flew MCO-ATL Thursday. Scanned my boarding pass and told me I was pre selected for TSA line. Went to TSA line (only one in line) and was told I could enter this line anytime I was in Orlando. Never registered for anything online and I am not enrolled in any of the expedited programs. For that matter I was not aware of any pre check program.
Tried to take lap top out, no. Tried to take shoes off, no. Not sure how I got in but I like it!
Tried to take lap top out, no. Tried to take shoes off, no. Not sure how I got in but I like it!
May 6, 2012, 4:42 pm
#277
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MSP
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My recollection is that the program *is* opt-in (and the TSA and Delta say this as well) and that elites who Delta would/could enroll without having trusted traveler numbers got an email about it with an opt-in link a few months ago. Perhaps some of you opted in and then forgot about it?
May 6, 2012, 5:29 pm
#278
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta GM, Marriott Platinum, Hertz 5*
Posts: 2,530
My recollection is that the program *is* opt-in (and the TSA and Delta say this as well) and that elites who Delta would/could enroll without having trusted traveler numbers got an email about it with an opt-in link a few months ago. Perhaps some of you opted in and then forgot about it?
When I hit GM, I didn't get anything indicated that I would be eligible at that time either.
May 7, 2012, 10:32 am
#279
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Location: MSP
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Go to the Profile page on Delta's website. See the part about passenger data, and the checkbox at the bottom of that section:
"By checking this box, you consent to Delta storing your Secure Flight Passenger Data consistent with our privacy policy. For Delta SkyMiles members, by checking this box, you also consent to Delta Air Lines, Inc. sharing your information with TSA to be considered for modified screening at select TSA checkpoints."
If you checked that (to avoid having to tell Delta your age, etc. every time you flew), then you opted in to Pre.
Yes, I suspect that Delta changed the meaning of that box after I first checked it to allow them to submit me for Pre. I don't exactly object.
"By checking this box, you consent to Delta storing your Secure Flight Passenger Data consistent with our privacy policy. For Delta SkyMiles members, by checking this box, you also consent to Delta Air Lines, Inc. sharing your information with TSA to be considered for modified screening at select TSA checkpoints."
If you checked that (to avoid having to tell Delta your age, etc. every time you flew), then you opted in to Pre.
Yes, I suspect that Delta changed the meaning of that box after I first checked it to allow them to submit me for Pre. I don't exactly object.
May 7, 2012, 11:23 am
#280
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 3
Friday 4 May, SP TSA line at LGA. The 10+ fellow SP flyers ahead of me were 'invited' to try the TSA Precheck line... I presented my BP and full GE credentials and was denied access to the line. TSA agent told me that 8/10 times I would also be invited, however this was not one of those occasions. ???
May 7, 2012, 12:30 pm
#281
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4/4 at PreCheck since getting GE. With how quick Pre is right now, I actually really enjoy seeing fellow pax get selected along with it. Doesn't slow me down much and takes them out of the regular line when I have to go through it with my wife who is sans Pre/GE.
May 7, 2012, 4:15 pm
#282
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You're automatically denied for any misdemeanors within 10 years. You can appeal but no guaruntee they will overturn it.
While I was at my GE interview someone else was denied for driving with an expired emissions sticker on their car. VA classifies it as a class 4 misdemeanor. The DHS agent was telling the guy to appeal but otherwise his hands were tied.
While I was at my GE interview someone else was denied for driving with an expired emissions sticker on their car. VA classifies it as a class 4 misdemeanor. The DHS agent was telling the guy to appeal but otherwise his hands were tied.
May 8, 2012, 7:47 am
#283
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SLC
Programs: Delta DM, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, SPG Gold, National EC Executive, Delta Amex Reserve
Posts: 271
I'm 2/2 in SLC as a GM. I did get the email that said to update my info on delta.com to enroll. That was all I did, not involved in any other programs. I gotta say, pre-check is amazing. I wore laced shoes(boots in fact) for the time ever in anticipation of making it through pre-check.
Here is to 17 second security times!!
Here is to 17 second security times!!
May 8, 2012, 1:42 pm
#284
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: MKE
Posts: 42
Getting selected.. not sure how.
GM based in MKE where there's no pre-check, but I have breezed through the fast lanes*:
MSP - going home to MKE, Sunday. Companion on same PNR (no status) not allowed to tag along in the fast-lane.
ATL - going home to MKE, after an unexpected overnight the other day with the thunderstorms.
DCA - going home to MKE a few weeks ago.
* Never got an email, no GE, no nothing.
MSP - going home to MKE, Sunday. Companion on same PNR (no status) not allowed to tag along in the fast-lane.
ATL - going home to MKE, after an unexpected overnight the other day with the thunderstorms.
DCA - going home to MKE a few weeks ago.
* Never got an email, no GE, no nothing.
May 8, 2012, 2:04 pm
#285
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Assume the fast lanes you're talking about are the Pre lanes. Was your companion allowed to at least use the SP security line based on your GM status and being on the same PNR (while you split off and went ahead through the Pre line)?