The Definitive "Delta - TSA Pre-Check" thread
Oct 15, 2013, 9:26 pm
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Oct 15, 2013, 9:41 pm
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The price is already $50. At least, that's what I paid (less the Amex rebate).
Oct 15, 2013, 9:42 pm
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I'm thinking of having the Madame get the Amex Plat so that she can get the Global Entry, and we can start getting SkyClub access, now that we are traveling more to visit the fledgling Spidakids in SEA and PVD. I let it go last year, because we were not traveling enough.
Oct 15, 2013, 9:43 pm
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I don't mind DL trying things like this. The security system we have is inefficient and should definitely be improved. I'm willing to put up with experiments to that end. That said, they need to find a better way to educate these folks about what their Pre experience will be like. Else it falls on all of us to tell them not to slow us down by doing the normal security theater bit. I find myself doing that a lot at MSP these days. Not sure where all the Pre newbies are coming from.
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Oct 15, 2013, 9:55 pm
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Perhaps the 85 number comes from confusion with the $85 price tag, or the 85% that disapprove of TSA.
Oct 15, 2013, 9:57 pm
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I'm thinking of having the Madame get the Amex Plat so that she can get the Global Entry, and we can start getting SkyClub access, now that we are traveling more to visit the fledgling Spidakids in SEA and PVD. I let it go last year, because we were not traveling enough.
Oct 15, 2013, 10:01 pm
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Once PreCheck not always PreCheck and/or PreCheck LLL. If PreCheck LLL type screening were the default screening for all passengers at US airports, then it would be far closer to "once PreCheck, always PreCheck".
Getting GE leads to a higher frequency of PreCheck LLL outcomes for passengers, but that which is granted administratively can also be revoked/denied administratively.
The $450 card can be pretty easily be made into a $250 card; add in some additional cards/authorized users on the account, and the $250 card may well turn out to not even cost half of even $250.
While I got GE paid for by UA, I have seen others do pretty well by signing up for one Amex Plat account at the latter half of the year and then bringing one or two additional user/authorized cards on the same account so as to pretty much cover the fees and then some. The GE fee arrangement substantially decreases the cost of having the Amex Plat.
Getting GE leads to a higher frequency of PreCheck LLL outcomes for passengers, but that which is granted administratively can also be revoked/denied administratively.
While I got GE paid for by UA, I have seen others do pretty well by signing up for one Amex Plat account at the latter half of the year and then bringing one or two additional user/authorized cards on the same account so as to pretty much cover the fees and then some. The GE fee arrangement substantially decreases the cost of having the Amex Plat.
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Oct 15, 2013, 10:16 pm
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Why do so many on this board have a need to spread this misinformation about there being a preference for those who pay. The stated instruction is that those who have not paid are subject to randomly not getting Pre-Check here and there, but the experience of those of us who get Pre-Check from being frequent fliers is that we get it 100% of the time, and TSA just expanded the program to thousands who did not pay. How that translates into a preference for those who did pay is beyond me.
As DHS/TSA has verbally indicated: those who don't pay the user fee for a "background check" won't get PreCheck LLL type screening anywhere near as frequently as those who do pay. TSA has shown its preference for those who are money/data-surrender monkeys.
DL has some choices, but the TSA has its own choices so as to get what the TSA wants. Short of DL jumping out of PreCheck participation, the TSA's choices are likely to trump DL's choices in this regard.
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Oct 15, 2013, 10:17 pm
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Experienced the same at FLL yesterday. Clueless kettle taking off her coat, shoes, belt, opening laptop bag..... I simply walked around her, placed my cell phone and backpack on the xray belt and was through in a few seconds.
Oct 15, 2013, 10:47 pm
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$200 in airline fees, and $100 in GE, make it a $150 card the first year. (Though it can be hard to get the $200 in airline fees. Last time I checked an oversize bag, DL just ignored that fact.) And the other bennies can easily be worth the difference.
Oct 15, 2013, 11:00 pm
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Oct 15, 2013, 11:36 pm
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Look, after years of security theatre, new people being brought into pre-check have to overcome years of habit while going through security. The whole belt, shoes, coat, laptop, baggie thing is engrained in people's expectation of security that they're simply doing what they've been trained to do. With a little time, this will get better and the lines will move faster once people unlearn the habits of the past.
Truth is, once this gets going, this is going to make a better experience for a whole lot of people. Chalk up the delays to teething problems and stop complaining. This should be the norm for the majority, not a special perk for a few and they should have started doing this years ago.
Truth is, once this gets going, this is going to make a better experience for a whole lot of people. Chalk up the delays to teething problems and stop complaining. This should be the norm for the majority, not a special perk for a few and they should have started doing this years ago.
Oct 16, 2013, 12:08 am
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About a week or a little more ago, I posted that checkpoint 4 in MSP was changing - to only SP and TSAPre. Someone commented that they were told it was going to get really crazy at CP 4 which I did not understand how with all the kettles gone. I think we know why now if they are allowing a ton of newbies into PRE.