DL Notifies EAS, May Drop up to 24 (PMNW) markets
Jul 15, 2011, 2:16 pm
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Look at the PR on this,
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1408
When it comes to announcing bad news, no one at Dullta has the backbone to say it, so it is "Delta said" instead of "said Joe Blow, VP of Route Cancellations at Delta."
That's low (and not to mention, unprofessional).
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1408
"While Delta would prefer to continue serving these communities, the new reality of mounting cost pressures faced by our industry means we can no longer afford to provide this service. As we continue to strengthen our business, Delta is retiring the Saab turboprops and some 50-seat jet aircraft, which will hinder the financial viability of serving these smaller markets," Delta said.
That's low (and not to mention, unprofessional).
Jul 15, 2011, 2:32 pm
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Jul 15, 2011, 2:47 pm
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Car to Mackinaw City or. St Ignace, Ferry Boat (or snow mobile in the winter time) and Horse & Buggy (or sled).
Nearest service will be places like GRR, FNT, MBS and TVC.
Bob H
Jul 15, 2011, 2:54 pm
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The loss of TUP would sadden me if only because I went there a couple years ago and the nostalgia factor kicks in. Other than that though I don't think many of the cities are a big surprise.
Jul 15, 2011, 3:13 pm
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Jul 15, 2011, 3:13 pm
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If I understand it right:
ABR, BJI, ESC, HIB, PLN, CIU, SUX and ALO are transitioning to CRJ service as they pursue EAS payments from the government.
BRD, FOD, INL, IMT, MCW and PIR will be dropped altogether. However Great Lakes Aviation is going to provide service as a EAS replacement and they will be handled by the Delta subsidiary that currently does the Delta Connection flights. They are also going to award SkyMiles credit for those flights.
APN, DVL, JMS, TVF, ATY, PIB and TUP have not been picked up by Great Lakes and Delta has an obligation to serve them until either the contract is up (unsure when) or a replacement carrier is found.
ABR, BJI, ESC, HIB, PLN, CIU, SUX and ALO are transitioning to CRJ service as they pursue EAS payments from the government.
BRD, FOD, INL, IMT, MCW and PIR will be dropped altogether. However Great Lakes Aviation is going to provide service as a EAS replacement and they will be handled by the Delta subsidiary that currently does the Delta Connection flights. They are also going to award SkyMiles credit for those flights.
APN, DVL, JMS, TVF, ATY, PIB and TUP have not been picked up by Great Lakes and Delta has an obligation to serve them until either the contract is up (unsure when) or a replacement carrier is found.
Jul 15, 2011, 3:17 pm
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Well we all knew that the SAABs were on their way out. Many of these markets probably aren't economical with CRJs.
Interesting to think about an alternate dimension in which the Delta/Northwest merger did not occur. Would Mesaba still exist as a wholly-owned? Would many small communities still have service?
Personally I loved the SAABs. Yes they were noisy, but very reliable.
Interesting to think about an alternate dimension in which the Delta/Northwest merger did not occur. Would Mesaba still exist as a wholly-owned? Would many small communities still have service?
Personally I loved the SAABs. Yes they were noisy, but very reliable.
Jul 15, 2011, 3:19 pm
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Yea, and the APN+CIU was an alternative, but no more as well...
Would it be funny/sad if UAL would pick up the EAS and run some of the MN flights with ATR's
What has this airline become....
Would it be funny/sad if UAL would pick up the EAS and run some of the MN flights with ATR's
What has this airline become....
Jul 15, 2011, 4:11 pm
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Based on the expiration of the Saab leases, the weak economy and the price of fuel, I think there's a good chance NW would have had to make significant changes to its network.
Jul 15, 2011, 4:18 pm
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Look at the PR on this,
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1408
When it comes to announcing bad news, no one at Dullta has the backbone to say it, so it is "Delta said" instead of "said Joe Blow, VP of Route Cancellations at Delta."
That's low (and not to mention, unprofessional).
http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1408
When it comes to announcing bad news, no one at Dullta has the backbone to say it, so it is "Delta said" instead of "said Joe Blow, VP of Route Cancellations at Delta."
That's low (and not to mention, unprofessional).
Jul 15, 2011, 9:01 pm
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Service by market:
Detroit:
APN: 2xSF3
ESC: 1xSF3, 2xCRJ
PLN: SF3, 3xCRJ (will reduce to 2xCRJ this fall)
CIU: 2xCRJ
SF3 flights remaining this fall: 3
flights that would be canceled this fall: 3xSF3, 6xCR9 = 9
Minneapolis/St. Paul:
TVF: 2xSF3 *service is through HIB
DVL: 2xSF3 *service is through JSM
ATY: 2xSF3
FOD: 2xSF3
HIB: 3xSF3
JMS-: 2xSF3
MCW: 2xSF3
PIR: 2xSF3
IMT: 1xSF3
SUX: 3xCRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
INL: 3xSF3 (becomes 2x this fall)
BRD: SF3, 2xCRJ (becomes 2xSF3 this fall)
ABR: SF3, 2xCRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
BJI: 2xSF3, CRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
ALO: 2xSF3, CRJ (becomes SF3, CRJ this fall)
SF3 flights remaining this fall: 19
flights that would be canceled this fall: 19xSF3, 5xCRJ = 24
Memphis:
GLH: 2xSF3 (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
MSL: 2xSF3 (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
TUP: 3xSF3 (becomes 3xCRJ this fall)
PIB: 1xSF3, 1xCRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
SF3 flights remaining this fall: 0
flights that would be canceled this fall: 9xCRJ = 9
Salt Lake:
BTM: 2xCRJ
flights that would be canceled this fall: 2xCR = 2
Detroit:
APN: 2xSF3
ESC: 1xSF3, 2xCRJ
PLN: SF3, 3xCRJ (will reduce to 2xCRJ this fall)
CIU: 2xCRJ
SF3 flights remaining this fall: 3
flights that would be canceled this fall: 3xSF3, 6xCR9 = 9
Minneapolis/St. Paul:
TVF: 2xSF3 *service is through HIB
DVL: 2xSF3 *service is through JSM
ATY: 2xSF3
FOD: 2xSF3
HIB: 3xSF3
JMS-: 2xSF3
MCW: 2xSF3
PIR: 2xSF3
IMT: 1xSF3
SUX: 3xCRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
INL: 3xSF3 (becomes 2x this fall)
BRD: SF3, 2xCRJ (becomes 2xSF3 this fall)
ABR: SF3, 2xCRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
BJI: 2xSF3, CRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
ALO: 2xSF3, CRJ (becomes SF3, CRJ this fall)
SF3 flights remaining this fall: 19
flights that would be canceled this fall: 19xSF3, 5xCRJ = 24
Memphis:
GLH: 2xSF3 (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
MSL: 2xSF3 (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
TUP: 3xSF3 (becomes 3xCRJ this fall)
PIB: 1xSF3, 1xCRJ (becomes 2xCRJ this fall)
SF3 flights remaining this fall: 0
flights that would be canceled this fall: 9xCRJ = 9
Salt Lake:
BTM: 2xCRJ
flights that would be canceled this fall: 2xCR = 2