First Class Monetization, or FCM: The Definitive Thread
#5131
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Not exactly the same. The widebody is on the short-haul segment ATL-CVG in his case, while TUS-ATL is domestic narrowbody equipment. Yours is the reverse.
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#5134
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I'm sure this has been discussed upthread, but I booked a recent flight (wanted $70 r/t for C+ pre-purchase) and the post-purchase UG offer was the normal $18 r/t for this route. Normally, I take my free UG, but with the promo, I've been spending the extra 9 bucks for the 1.75 MQDs.
Annnnnyyyyyyway, I realized that Delta wanted like $140 on the outbound, but only $50 for F on the return, and the return is a late flight out of LGA on a summer Thursday (thunderstorms, anyone?). Out of habit, I bought C+ post-purchase, but quickly realized it just paid to buy F. However, the seat map on both desktop and mobile won't show anything other than C+, and after waiting 4 hours for a callback and then another 10 minutes, I got what sounded like a first-day agent who said "computer says no." What's with this glitch that Delta won't sell me another UG after buying one already?
Annnnnyyyyyyway, I realized that Delta wanted like $140 on the outbound, but only $50 for F on the return, and the return is a late flight out of LGA on a summer Thursday (thunderstorms, anyone?). Out of habit, I bought C+ post-purchase, but quickly realized it just paid to buy F. However, the seat map on both desktop and mobile won't show anything other than C+, and after waiting 4 hours for a callback and then another 10 minutes, I got what sounded like a first-day agent who said "computer says no." What's with this glitch that Delta won't sell me another UG after buying one already?
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I'm sure this has been discussed upthread, but I booked a recent flight (wanted $70 r/t for C+ pre-purchase) and the post-purchase UG offer was the normal $18 r/t for this route. Normally, I take my free UG, but with the promo, I've been spending the extra 9 bucks for the 1.75 MQDs.
Annnnnyyyyyyway, I realized that Delta wanted like $140 on the outbound, but only $50 for F on the return, and the return is a late flight out of LGA on a summer Thursday (thunderstorms, anyone?). Out of habit, I bought C+ post-purchase, but quickly realized it just paid to buy F. However, the seat map on both desktop and mobile won't show anything other than C+, and after waiting 4 hours for a callback and then another 10 minutes, I got what sounded like a first-day agent who said "computer says no." What's with this glitch that Delta won't sell me another UG after buying one already?
Annnnnyyyyyyway, I realized that Delta wanted like $140 on the outbound, but only $50 for F on the return, and the return is a late flight out of LGA on a summer Thursday (thunderstorms, anyone?). Out of habit, I bought C+ post-purchase, but quickly realized it just paid to buy F. However, the seat map on both desktop and mobile won't show anything other than C+, and after waiting 4 hours for a callback and then another 10 minutes, I got what sounded like a first-day agent who said "computer says no." What's with this glitch that Delta won't sell me another UG after buying one already?
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It's not a glitch. If you buy an FCM upgrade it won't offer one to next level. The FCM upgrades are non-changeable and non-refundable (and that includes purchase another upgrade). It's in the T&C's. You may be able to get a good deal with FCM (compared to just upfaring at time of purchase), but these FCM offers also have drawbacks and they are not the same as doing an upfare.
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How do Skymiles-based upgrades/FCM work on multi-passenger itineraries?
If there are multiple people on 1 PNR and I want to use miles to move from main cabin to C+, how does that work? Do the points come from each individual's Skymiles account? Or does 1 person need to have enough miles to upgrade everyone in the whole party? If possible, I'd like to have multiple people on 1 PNR, but be able to pay for a C+ upgrade out of each individual's Skymiles account. (I normally fly alone, so not sure how this would work!)
For more detail, I'm planning a trip for a group of 3: me (GM) and 2 regular Skymiles members. I'd like to have us on 1 PNR for the checked bag benefits (none of us has a DL credit card) and in case of IRROPS. That being said, the 2 regular Skymiles members each have enough points to probably make use of a C+ upgrade offer (maybe an FCM, but I doubt it), and they want to use up their Skymiles balance because they don't fly DL that often.
For more detail, I'm planning a trip for a group of 3: me (GM) and 2 regular Skymiles members. I'd like to have us on 1 PNR for the checked bag benefits (none of us has a DL credit card) and in case of IRROPS. That being said, the 2 regular Skymiles members each have enough points to probably make use of a C+ upgrade offer (maybe an FCM, but I doubt it), and they want to use up their Skymiles balance because they don't fly DL that often.
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If there are multiple people on 1 PNR and I want to use miles to move from main cabin to C+, how does that work? Do the points come from each individual's Skymiles account? Or does 1 person need to have enough miles to upgrade everyone in the whole party? If possible, I'd like to have multiple people on 1 PNR, but be able to pay for a C+ upgrade out of each individual's Skymiles account. (I normally fly alone, so not sure how this would work!)
For more detail, I'm planning a trip for a group of 3: me (GM) and 2 regular Skymiles members. I'd like to have us on 1 PNR for the checked bag benefits (none of us has a DL credit card) and in case of IRROPS. That being said, the 2 regular Skymiles members each have enough points to probably make use of a C+ upgrade offer (maybe an FCM, but I doubt it), and they want to use up their Skymiles balance because they don't fly DL that often.
For more detail, I'm planning a trip for a group of 3: me (GM) and 2 regular Skymiles members. I'd like to have us on 1 PNR for the checked bag benefits (none of us has a DL credit card) and in case of IRROPS. That being said, the 2 regular Skymiles members each have enough points to probably make use of a C+ upgrade offer (maybe an FCM, but I doubt it), and they want to use up their Skymiles balance because they don't fly DL that often.
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Plane type? If thats on a 739, Im taking that in a heartbeat over being stuck in Y/C+ on the 739. Dont forget an FCM this early is likely to put you into a revenue F bucket so youll also get 1.75x on the accelerator if you need MQM for status (or rollover).
EDIT: Just looked and see its a 738. Thats a little bit closer, the C+ on the 738 is comfy and row 1 on the 738 is terrible. That said I would still snag that with row 4 open (and the possibility they upgauge to a 739 if Alaska demand remains strong)
EDIT: Just looked and see its a 738. Thats a little bit closer, the C+ on the 738 is comfy and row 1 on the 738 is terrible. That said I would still snag that with row 4 open (and the possibility they upgauge to a 739 if Alaska demand remains strong)
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