What does Delta do with open BE (J) class?
Nov 15, 2010 | 4:42 am
#17
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Programs: Delta DM, Continental PE
Posts: 230
Flying for free is a great employee perk, and I support that. But no employee should go into First/Biz on a free pass (unless on airline business) before a paying passenger.
My Opinion.
SR
My Opinion.
SR
Nov 15, 2010 | 5:10 am
#18
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: RST
Programs: Delta Diamond; Hilton Diamond; Accor Gold
Posts: 4,844
Anyone with a Y/B/M fare can upgrade with miles or SWUs. PM and DM will typically not get automatically upgraded regardless of fare, except in full coach situations.
Nov 15, 2010 | 5:22 am
#19
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,806
As a former NW employee, I've never flown FC/BE so much until two years ago. It's a benefit for working for Delta whether one is a contract employee or non-union employee.
Benefits like non-rev travel are a perk for Delta employees. Keep the employees happy, keeps the union out. Unhappy employees will make the service nosedive.
Benefits like non-rev travel are a perk for Delta employees. Keep the employees happy, keeps the union out. Unhappy employees will make the service nosedive.
Nov 15, 2010 | 5:28 am
#20
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HKY
Programs: DL-DM MM & RW, UAL- PS, Marriott Lifetime PLT, SPG-PLT, Hilton-Gold
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Nov 15, 2010 | 5:39 am
#22
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DTW or FNT
Programs: DL GM
Posts: 635
General Question: In your company, do employees get free perks that your customers do not? If I were your customer, and wanted one of those perks, how would I get that? A. Get a job at your company. B. Pay for it.
Nov 15, 2010 | 6:06 am
#23
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Washington, DC, Chapel Hill, NC (RDU)
Programs: DL Plat (won't hit DM again) 2MM (2.5), HH Gold, PC Gold, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 5,725
At the first ATL DO, when the question of whether or not the phantom upgrades that NW had implemented in the last year or so came up, Jeff R indicated that he thought it was a great idea and a great marketing tool and that they would look at ways to bring them back, maybe. And Bob S, who had implemented them at NW indicated that he had taken some grief from employees whose pass travel was more likely to be in coach because of the phantom upgrades of platinums (and some golds, I guess).
Haven't heard much since then. I have been fortunate to snag some international opups when the back has been oversold.
Haven't heard much since then. I have been fortunate to snag some international opups when the back has been oversold.
Nov 15, 2010 | 7:03 am
#24
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: National Capitol Region
Programs: Delta Dirt Medallion,AA,USairways, WN Rapid Rewards, National Emerald Club
Posts: 3,913
As a former NW employee, I've never flown FC/BE so much until two years ago. It's a benefit for working for Delta whether one is a contract employee or non-union employee.
Benefits like non-rev travel are a perk for Delta employees. Keep the employees happy, keeps the union out. Unhappy employees will make the service nosedive.
Benefits like non-rev travel are a perk for Delta employees. Keep the employees happy, keeps the union out. Unhappy employees will make the service nosedive.
Many of us get that this is contrived to keep the union out @:-)
Nov 15, 2010 | 7:13 am
#25
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,679
Still, allowing cheap at-gate upgrades erodes the J cabin model.
Nov 15, 2010 | 7:31 am
#26
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NYC
Programs: AA, DL, Bonvoy, WoH, HH
Posts: 762
Enough, there is no need of start of this dead-end debate again.
This is the Delta today, and have been like this for a while.
Somehow it is working and will continue to do so. IF you don't like the system, there are plenty of other carriers out there.
Actually I am finding more issues on people, who are demanding goods & services for free when they didn't pay for it. What kind of business model is that?
This is the Delta today, and have been like this for a while.
Somehow it is working and will continue to do so. IF you don't like the system, there are plenty of other carriers out there.
Actually I am finding more issues on people, who are demanding goods & services for free when they didn't pay for it. What kind of business model is that?
Nov 15, 2010 | 8:06 am
#27
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: National Capitol Region
Programs: Delta Dirt Medallion,AA,USairways, WN Rapid Rewards, National Emerald Club
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Hello, its called a frequent flyer program. Airlines do it to build brand loyalty and at least miles are earned.
Nov 15, 2010 | 8:31 am
#29
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NYC / Chelsea
Programs: Delta, Avios, Chase
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actually, let's keep this thread open and sticky it. that way people that want to get free upgrades to a $7k product when paying a TATL sLUT fare can hide behind complaints re: business models, etc.
Nov 15, 2010 | 8:32 am
#30
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NYC
Programs: AA, DL, Bonvoy, WoH, HH
Posts: 762
this doesn't mean Skymiles is the best program out there, but also haven't seen a program offers complimentary upgrades (to J or F on Trans-Oceanic flights, under regular operating conditions) to their elites.