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PepeBorja Oct 30, 2010 11:19 pm

I would say complain and write the pilot up only if the person writing the complaint is perfect, always "professional" and never "inappropriate"; otherwise, it amounts to hypocrisy.

It is impossible to gauge the pilot’s skills and judgment by a comment made over the PA and I am sure none of us would like to be judged by a simple statement rather than the sum of our deeds over a lifetime, so give him the benefit of the doubt, be a good citizen and forgive his trespass. Life is about forgiving, not punishing.

Writing to complain about this “much-to-do-about nothing” is an over-raction.

beckoa Oct 30, 2010 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by DaDaDan (Post 15045055)
It was Obama. I got the below email from the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association. Even so, there are rarely delays for scheduled air carriers due to flight restrictions for the president. They are usually exempt from the TFR (temporary flight restriction). Could be something minor due to increased workload for the controllers or perhaps if you're actually trying to fly in when Air Force 1 is leaving or something.

I'd also note that the TFR was up for only 1:15, which is pretty short in my experience.

Had one at PDX recently too:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alask...wednesday.html

motytrah Oct 31, 2010 12:45 am

I spent 8 years working so close to MSP that I could read the tail numbers off the planes as they landed. In those 8 years the POTUS and VP at the time thought Minnesota was a swing state. If it wasn't a ground stop trying to land or depart I'd try to go home only to find they have large trucks blocking the freeway entrance. (Snow state, so we have plenty of gov't owned dump trucks to salt the roads).

The comment was dumb and inappropriate. Send a note to Delta. Even Delta has the common sense to support both parties.

JBa Oct 31, 2010 2:03 am


Originally Posted by N639DL (Post 15043526)
I'd write that guy up in an instant.

Lol, that's funny. Time to grow up.

Gargoyle Oct 31, 2010 7:02 am


Originally Posted by runfit (Post 15045397)
I agree that it is unprofessional to encourage one political party over another, but calls into question his judgment and such with respect to his handling of an aircraft because of how his politics lean and what he chooses to say about them? Please... mountain out of a molehill

maybe, maybe not. the pilot doesn't understand the distinction between his professional responsibilities and his personal anger. He doesn't understand that when he dons the uniform and gets in that seat, with responsibility to every single passenger and their families, that he needs to set aside personal issues.

It appears he does not take his job seriously.

username_unknown Oct 31, 2010 7:28 am


Originally Posted by runfit (Post 15045397)
Please... mountain out of a molehill

+1

EZE Oct 31, 2010 8:58 am

Sounds like the pilot made a fairly factual assessment of the situation, and did not encourage you to vote one way or another - just asked you to remember the situation. Did you clap? :D

secretsea18 Oct 31, 2010 10:21 am


Originally Posted by Crazyhotelguy (Post 15044155)
Mellowing out ???? I figured he should have been fired along with the GA who made him scan boarding passes.....:)

Agreed. How furiating.

TheMoose Oct 31, 2010 10:50 am


Originally Posted by gpscuba2000 (Post 15045225)
...however Fox news is fairly balanced

LOL!

You need to come wipe the coffee off my laptop screen.

nwrep2009 Oct 31, 2010 10:59 am


Originally Posted by gpscuba2000 (Post 15045225)
however Fox news is fairly balanced).The world will be back on track come Tuesday evening.
:p

Agree on both points. ^^

buffcoat Oct 31, 2010 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 15046461)
maybe, maybe not. the pilot doesn't understand the distinction between his professional responsibilities and his personal anger. He doesn't understand that when he dons the uniform and gets in that seat, with responsibility to every single passenger and their families, that he needs to set aside personal issues.

It appears he does not take his job seriously.

+1.

If you have a job dealing with the public, keep your political (and religious, and personal) issues to yourself. You're there to do a job. An airline announcement system is not a soapbox, and only a blinded dope would think that it was.

Bicostal Oct 31, 2010 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by lougord99 (Post 15044304)
Huh? The president does indeed screw up travel more than any other elected official whenever the president travels. What does that have to do with the party?

Happens to be the one he says he represents.....

I find it challenging and inconvenient that the airspace around Air Force 1 is so sacred that it stops commercial aviation for hours and miles around. A 4 hour ground stop in SAN when BO was in NYC and 2 hour delay for BO when TK was being euligized in BOS (and they didn't even use Logan!), and once or twice for BC.

What makes it so special or necessary?

saaws Oct 31, 2010 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by Bicostal (Post 15048633)
Happens to be the one he says he represents.....

I find it challenging and inconvenient that the airspace around Air Force 1 is so sacred that it stops commercial aviation for hours and miles around. A 4 hour ground stop in SAN when BO was in NYC and 2 hour delay for BO when TK was being euligized in BOS (and they didn't even use Logan!), and once or twice for BC.

What makes it so special or necessary?

Just as special as a European War Criminal who happens to be ex President of the US protected by the US government.

N639DL Oct 31, 2010 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by JBa (Post 15045716)
Lol, that's funny. Time to grow up.

I'm sorry, I'm not a Delta Air Lines Airbus A319 partisan pilot.

GUWonder Oct 31, 2010 6:23 pm

If the pilot were a supporter of ____ [some political group, including terrorist organizations] and were to make a partisan political comment in favor of _____ [same political group, including terrorist organizations, as mentioned previously], would the apologists for this pilot's partisan politics be consistent (and support the pilot), or would they be hypocrites?


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