Air Brian

I think Pb lives in Europe, from the tone of her messages. "Nunya"? You sure are an articulate individual. Can you cite statistics as the the ratio of cash:credit spending in Vermont? If not, you need to "get informed." I've spent much of my life in Africa and am happy to report that I've never met anyone like you, save in some governmental ministries.

B747-437B

For starters it is a daily 767 rather than a daily 777, so a slight adjustment there. More interestingly though, and please forgive me if I am beginning to sound a bit academic here, demand to/from Accra is so highly seasonal and directional that the annual curve is almost "W" shaped. In reality, the "available demand" for a single airline in tha market is calculated by deducting the spillage during peak demand period from the total demand. This amounts to approximately 12% of the total market, so in reality the potential target market is only in the range of 175k rather than 200k, as the remaining 25k passengers want to travel at a time where the aircraft is already full - and there is insufficient demand in the opposite direction to warrant a larger aircraft or additional frequency.

Most models will see United earning about 25% of the Accra market in the first year, with about 45% going to Delta and the remainder with indirect carriers. As such, my estimate is on United lifting around 45k roundtrip passengers on the Accra route in their first year of operations, leaving the remaining 70% of capacity to be filled from Lagos. This assumes that there is no significant impact of beyond/behind connections on the Accra end of the route. Of course, this doesn't take into account how United YM is going to allocate preferential capacity vis-a-vis Accra and Lagos which in turn may skew numbers either way.

Robert Leach

English can be a wonderful language if read closely.

If you will re-read my post, you will note that I said "perception" of security risks and costs. Whether it is true or not that Nigeria is particularly dangerous, the perception is there.

Madefornow

how articulate i am is "nunya".....does that sound any better? i went to high school in Nashville, maybe thats the reason

"spent much of your life in africa" and so??? please reveal how long and what locations. Being connected to the elite in west africa is definitely not my fault, but a privilege.
i was specifically talking about Ghana/western africa.....western TV may not show the best parts of Africa or how the average west african lives, but I have seen and travelled extensively within west africa, and I can compare them to the credit stricken folks in vermont...lol!!! okay, excluding the lack of power, good road networks, etc....uhmm, i might really "need to get informed"....lol


credit system is a modern financial jail.....lol

Madefornow

sorry i did not have my contacts on......

tjisnumbaone

I'm really surprised that UA is entering the Africa market.

1,200th post!

HeathrowGuy

Very true...if anything, some of the world's highest international airfares routinely involve travel to/from countries with low per capita incomes. Luanda, Angola is a good example of this.

itsaboutthejourney

I think inflammatory is better to describe the OP's post title

MikeMpls

Do some research & reading and you'll learn otherwise. It's a reference to some wacky news items & accusations that have originated in Nigeria with regard to Delta.

DesertNomad

When you call him, please ask him where my fifty million dollars is.

HeathrowGuy

The crusade against the unchallenged exploitation of Africa by Wing of Satan Delta Air Lines has been taken to another level:

HOUSTON, June 14 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE:CAL - News) today announced plans to launch new daily nonstop flights between Houston and Lagos, Nigeria, beginning Nov. 10, 2011, subject to government approval. It will be the first daily scheduled service offered between Texas and Africa by any carrier.

Lagos will be Continental's first destination in Africa and the 30th city in its trans-Atlantic route network. It is the second new international destination announced in the last month that will be served nonstop from Houston, Continental's largest hub. Continental currently serves 63 international destinations nonstop from Houston and recently announced plans to begin nonstop service between Houston and Auckland beginning Nov. 16, 2011, subject to government approval.

With the addition of flights to Africa, Houston will become one of just four cities in the world – and the only city in the Western Hemisphere – to have nonstop service to every inhabited continent on the globe.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Contin....html?x=0&.v=1

Wiirachay

Is the primary traffic business passengers traveling for oil-related matters?

What's the rationale for Auckland? Wouldn't SYD be more appropriate?

DiverDave

Yeah, the Wing of Satan is really in big trouble now. Brings me to the verge of an enormous :-: :-: BEST IN CLASS :-: :-: yawn.

Chances are excellent this route (and IAH-AKL) will not fly as announced.

The "unchallenged exploitation" assertion is false anyway, as UA is starting service to Accra in less than a week. Maybe you somehow missed the flood of press releases

http://biztravelguru.com/blogs/airli...to-africa.aspx

David

phatpaw

Maybe you missed the first page of this thread.

FWAAA

Perhaps it would, but I'm not certain that a 787-8 will have the range to fly IAH-SYD nonstop. The 787-9 should be able to make IAH-SYD, so wait a few more years.