Not a good year for Carnival - Another Ship with Problems
Mar 26, 2013, 9:36 am
#62
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: TPA
Programs: Hilton Gold, DL DIrt Medallion
Posts: 38,267
I'm still kicking myself for not buying at $15 in early 2009. I was holding out for $10. 
On a side note, it's interesting that CNN (and everyone else, for that matter) seems to have forgotten to report on the fact that Carnival Breeze rescued two stranded mariners from a disabled sailboat yesterday. I'm sure it was merely an oversight.
On a side note, it's interesting that CNN (and everyone else, for that matter) seems to have forgotten to report on the fact that Carnival Breeze rescued two stranded mariners from a disabled sailboat yesterday. I'm sure it was merely an oversight.
Mar 26, 2013, 10:36 am
#63
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,154
. Now if they'd sailed by someone that may or may not have been barely within site that was in distress, they'd be crucifying the captain. I'm a little more surprised that they haven't seemed to pick up on the man overboard that resulted in a death on the Coral Princess. (From Cruise Critic, reportedly the person had been seen climbing on the railings.)
Apr 3, 2013, 1:49 pm
#64
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: TPA
Programs: Hilton Gold, DL DIrt Medallion
Posts: 38,267
More bad news for Carnival: Triumph breaks free from it's moorings at BAE Systems, incurs damage, workers injured.
I'm guessing this will cost BAE some money.
I'm guessing this will cost BAE some money.
Apr 3, 2013, 2:57 pm
#65
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,154
In fairness, at least this one probably isn't Carnival's fault . CNN at one point had some cell phone footage that was played of the whole event, but I haven't been able to find it since the live feed of it went out. Really impressive wind gust went through and just yanked the ship from the dock, took it all the way over and ran it into the dredge/ship on the other side of the channel.
. CNN at one point had some cell phone footage that was played of the whole event, but I haven't been able to find it since the live feed of it went out. Really impressive wind gust went through and just yanked the ship from the dock, took it all the way over and ran it into the dredge/ship on the other side of the channel.
Apr 4, 2013, 4:58 am
#68
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 5,210
More bad news for Carnival: Triumph breaks free from it's moorings at BAE Systems, incurs damage, workers injured.
I'm guessing this will cost BAE some money.
I'm guessing this will cost BAE some money.
Here are a couple videos of other cruise ships breaking free of moorings in hogh winds.
MSC ship breaks free.
http://youtu.be/AIa7WhN60Bk
Norwegian Star breaks free and collides with Explorer of the Seas in Bermuda. How many times can one woman not having sex say Oh my God lol
http://youtu.be/rH9Lv8gwqqE
Apr 4, 2013, 2:32 pm
#71
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 62
about the ship's mooring fiasco - the latest Carnival cruise ship Triumph incident resulted in a 20 ft gash (starboard side). See this photo for the damage
Apr 5, 2013, 12:44 pm
#72
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 60137
Posts: 10,498
Last month, Sen Jay Rockefeller penned a letter to Micky Arison, the chairman of the Carnival Corp. Board, saying he was aware of “90 serious events that have occurred” on its cruise ships resulting in U.S. Coast Guard action. The two most serious of these incidents—a fire on Carnival Splendor in 2010 that left 4,500 people stranded at sea for days, and the Triumph fiasco—cost the Coast Guard and the Navy about $4.2 million. With reports that the Coast Guard could lose 25 percent of its operating budget under sequestration cuts, every penny counts.
“These costs ultimately must be borne by federal taxpayers,” Rockefeller continued in his letter. “Given that you reportedly pay little or nothing in federal taxes, do you intend to reimburse the Coast Guard and the Navy for the cost of responding?”
Without actually using the word, Carnival’s response was essentially “No.”
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congr...tself-20130405
“These costs ultimately must be borne by federal taxpayers,” Rockefeller continued in his letter. “Given that you reportedly pay little or nothing in federal taxes, do you intend to reimburse the Coast Guard and the Navy for the cost of responding?”
Without actually using the word, Carnival’s response was essentially “No.”
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congr...tself-20130405
Apr 5, 2013, 4:40 pm
#73
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 5,210
Really, Carnival pays little or no federal tax? I would be surprised to find that to be true. That has nothing to do with the ships being registered in other countries (they aren't eligible to be US flagged anyway). Carnival Corp is still a US (and UK) company.
Now, what happens if somebody runs into problems with their private boat and needs USCG assistance? Do they get a bill? Even if they have means to pay? Honestly, I don't know. But if they don't, then why should Carnival?
Now, what happens if somebody runs into problems with their private boat and needs USCG assistance? Do they get a bill? Even if they have means to pay? Honestly, I don't know. But if they don't, then why should Carnival?
Apr 5, 2013, 5:01 pm
#74
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 1999
Programs: FB Silver going for Gold
Posts: 21,811
While Carnival might operate in the U.S., it is reportedly incorporated in Panama.
As far as Arison's statement that Carnival pays port taxes. That might be true but its a conduit from customers who Carnival passes the payment through.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphi...ate-stirs-ire/