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Originally Posted by gegarrenton
(Post 15970617)
Coins are the most awful thing ever created. They are unuseful, they are space consuming, they are heavy, they damage everything in your pockets, this list is endless
If I want to pay for parking stall in Canada, I'd rather flip out my card and get it done with a slide or chip & PIN than fumbling around to see if I have a loonie or toonie. Even for public transportation, I usually get and top up the local tap-and-go contactless cards because they're so much more easier to use than fumbling around with exact change. |
Originally Posted by kebosabi
(Post 15970970)
Same here; this is why I'd rather want an EMV card for overseas use because I hate carrying around any type of coin in my pocket/wallet. The less coins I have to carry around the better and the card is able to do that down to the exact cent.
If I want to pay for parking stall in Canada, I'd rather flip out my card and get it done with a slide or chip & PIN than fumbling around to see if I have a loonie or toonie. Even for public transportation, I usually get and top up the local tap-and-go contactless cards because they're so much more easier to use than fumbling around with exact change. |
Just received an email from a local CU whose membership criteria that I fall into and they replied they "are putting serious consideration due to increasing number of similar inquiries in the past few months."
Sounds like CUs will be indeed the first issuers of EMV cards in the US. Let the word out and start talking to CUs in your neighborhood/organization. Much better personal response than the canned copy-and-paste message of the big banks. |
Originally Posted by kebosabi
(Post 15971498)
. Much better personal response than the canned copy-and-paste message of the big banks.
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EMV/Chip & PIN news for this week
Frontpage article on today's MSNBC: The Death of the magnetic stripe credit card points out to a pdf file issue by the European Payments Council that gives them the right to refuse transactions to be made using the mag-stripe. CARTES trade show for smart cards makes first US convention 3/2012 in Vegas Likely a reaction to US card issuers realizing the need to switch over to a more secure card system as skimming fraud continues to rise. |
^ good news
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U.S. Bank to Begin Issuing Cards to North American Corporate Clients in Europe by Mid-Year
"The bank initially plans to offer settlement options in euro and British pound sterling and will support its customer language requirements in English, French, German, Italian and Spanish. The cards will meet European technology standards, including full Chip-and-PIN capability." Interesting to note that US Bank is also the exclusive bank which partners with Travelex. |
Similar announcement (for corporate clients only) from JP Morgan Chase in 2009:
New product developments in the region to be delivered by early 2010 include: The launch of J.P. Morgan’s International Dollar Card (USD), a cross-border dollar solution complete with Chip and PIN security, and the ability to support clients’ needs in the Middle East, Africa, and Central and Eastern Europe, including Russia. |
Originally Posted by kebosabi
(Post 15997634)
EMV/Chip & PIN news for this week
Frontpage article on today's MSNBC: The Death of the magnetic stripe credit card points out to a pdf file issue by the European Payments Council that gives them the right to refuse transactions to be made using the mag-stripe. CARTES trade show for smart cards makes first US convention 3/2012 in Vegas Likely a reaction to US card issuers realizing the need to switch over to a more secure card system as skimming fraud continues to rise. Great to see some banks in the states are finally offering EMV cards, but only to corporate clients. I guess they don't realize that your average joe can afford to leave the country every once in awhile :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by t325
(Post 16033367)
... better get lots of cash?
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Originally Posted by t325
(Post 16033367)
So if I'm going to Europe in 2 months, I guess I better get lots of cash?
Great to see some banks in the states are finally offering EMV cards, but only to corporate clients. I guess they don't realize that your average joe can afford to leave the country every once in awhile :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by t325
(Post 16033367)
So if I'm going to Europe in 2 months, I guess I better get lots of cash?
@mia: In most (but not all) European countries you will not have any issue using a non-chipped credit card at staffed rail ticket counters. In Ireland, you can even use them at rail ticket machines! |
Originally Posted by t325
(Post 16033367)
So if I'm going to Europe in 2 months, I guess I better get lots of cash?
If the gas station is attended, you don't need cash, you do need to pay inside with a human. If the train station has a ticket office, you can pay with a swipe card in there, you just may have to stand in a long line. There are places where you may need to pay cash, say on subways and such (where there is no ticket station at all, at least nearby), but not big amounts. You can also work around some of this by planning ahead. Obviously, by buying gas at manned stations long before you "need to", you can avoid being stuck where only unmanned stations (not taking swipe cards) are open. By geting an "all day pass" for local public transport at a ticket window, you can avoid having to keep paying at stations where only unmanned ticket kiosks are where you can't swipe. By the way, in some places, train and transport is simpler than "no swipe"; the kiosks take cash only, so even chip&pin wouldn't help there. Long before chip&pin became an issue, or in countries where it wasn't an issue yet, I still have had to use manned ticket windows only, mostly, because that was the only way to pay with any credit card, period. It may be that those places that use to have cash kiosk only went straight from cash only to cash or chip&pin only, but to me that's not a difference. :) |
Originally Posted by sdsearch
(Post 16048071)
If the train station has a ticket office, you can pay with a swipe card in there, you just may have to stand in a long line.
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I have had no problems using a non-chipped Amex card with SNCF.
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