Recommendation for no-forex-fee card?
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Recommendation for no-forex-fee card?
Hi all,
I have the opportunity to charge approximately $50-$70K annually in business expenses from a single overseas supplier and would appreciate your suggestions for a few cards that would be most rewarding to use in this situation.
Conditions are:
1. No foreign exchange fee (Purchases are from outside USA)
2. Visa or M/C only (supplier does not accept Amex or Discover)
3. Any annual fee is fine as long as it is outweighed by benefits
4. If sign-up bonuses and/or spend requirements make it worthwhile, I would consider applying for multiple cards
5. My family and I fly regularly for non-work purposes so I have good use for travel rewards/points. We normally fly UA, AS, DL.
Thoughts? Please advise if I should include any additional information.
I have the opportunity to charge approximately $50-$70K annually in business expenses from a single overseas supplier and would appreciate your suggestions for a few cards that would be most rewarding to use in this situation.
Conditions are:
1. No foreign exchange fee (Purchases are from outside USA)
2. Visa or M/C only (supplier does not accept Amex or Discover)
3. Any annual fee is fine as long as it is outweighed by benefits
4. If sign-up bonuses and/or spend requirements make it worthwhile, I would consider applying for multiple cards
5. My family and I fly regularly for non-work purposes so I have good use for travel rewards/points. We normally fly UA, AS, DL.
Thoughts? Please advise if I should include any additional information.
Last edited by braffy; Sep 4, 2012 at 6:07 am Reason: added info
#2




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I assume you'll be charging a fair amount in hotel expenses. Marriott Premier has no forex fees and it nets you 5 Marriott pts / $ for Marriott stays. A good all-around card is the Sapphire preferred, because it has 2 pts / $ on any travel expenses.
Both cards have annual fees. The Marriott also gives you a free night / year. The Sapphire allows you to convert points to many different airlines or hotel programs.
Both cards have annual fees. The Marriott also gives you a free night / year. The Sapphire allows you to convert points to many different airlines or hotel programs.
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I assume you'll be charging a fair amount in hotel expenses. Marriott Premier has no forex fees and it nets you 5 Marriott pts / $ for Marriott stays. A good all-around card is the Sapphire preferred, because it has 2 pts / $ on any travel expenses.
Both cards have annual fees. The Marriott also gives you a free night / year. The Sapphire allows you to convert points to many different airlines or hotel programs.
Both cards have annual fees. The Marriott also gives you a free night / year. The Sapphire allows you to convert points to many different airlines or hotel programs.
#6
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There is a new version that is on the points system instead of cash back but I haven't changed over since I mainly buy gas (5% cash back the next month) with this card.
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2. Principal (it's a side business)
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I would look at cards with an annual threshold bonus which you are otherwise unlikely to achieve.
Examples:
JP Morgan Select VISA earns one Ultimate Rewards point per dollar, with a 25,000 point bonus at $100,000. Discussion here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...signature.html
Chase British Airways VISA earns 1.25 points per dollar, with a companion award at $30,000. Make sure you understand the limitations of the companion award before deciding if this has value for you. Primary discussion in the BA forum.
Examples:
JP Morgan Select VISA earns one Ultimate Rewards point per dollar, with a 25,000 point bonus at $100,000. Discussion here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...signature.html
Chase British Airways VISA earns 1.25 points per dollar, with a companion award at $30,000. Make sure you understand the limitations of the companion award before deciding if this has value for you. Primary discussion in the BA forum.
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I would look at cards with an annual threshold bonus which you are otherwise unlikely to achieve.
Examples:
JP Morgan Select VISA earns one Ultimate Rewards point per dollar, with a 25,000 point bonus at $100,000. Discussion here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...signature.html
Chase British Airways VISA earns 1.25 points per dollar, with a companion award at $30,000. Make sure you understand the limitations of the companion award before deciding if this has value for you. Primary discussion in the BA forum.
Examples:
JP Morgan Select VISA earns one Ultimate Rewards point per dollar, with a 25,000 point bonus at $100,000. Discussion here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...signature.html
Chase British Airways VISA earns 1.25 points per dollar, with a companion award at $30,000. Make sure you understand the limitations of the companion award before deciding if this has value for you. Primary discussion in the BA forum.
Unfortunately I don't think I will be able to hit the $100K spend for the 25K bonus with the JP Morgan card.
The Chase BA card is an intriguing suggestion due to the companion award. However, if I understand correctly this is only valid on BA operated flights and so they will stick us with their ridiculously high fuel surcharges not once but twice. If this was valid on partner awards I'd be very interested, but I don't believe this is the case.
Any other suggestions out there?
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I see you are 1p with UA so perhaps you'd take a look at UA Club visa card. No forex fee, 1.5 miles per $ spend on all spend, the annul fee is $395 (with $95 credit for 1st year) but it comes with full membership of UA club lounges, no close-in award booking fee, 2 free checked bags etc.
You can also look up no forex cards in the sticky in this forum to evaluate which ones suit your needs best.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...tion-fees.html
You can also look up no forex cards in the sticky in this forum to evaluate which ones suit your needs best.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...tion-fees.html
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I see you are 1p with UA so perhaps you'd take a look at UA Club visa card. No forex fee, 1.5 miles per $ spend on all spend, the annul fee is $395 (with $95 credit for 1st year) but it comes with full membership of UA club lounges, no close-in award booking fee, 2 free checked bags etc.
Does anyone know if there are any differences between the personal and business versions of the club Visa card?
When comparing these two options, it leads me to ask -- what is worth more? 1.5 United miles or 1 Chase UR point? My feeling is the 1.5 UA miles but I'm curious what you all think.
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Hilton Reserve gets you Diamond at $40K, w/no Forex. You'd earn a bonus weekend night along the way (@10K). 3 pts per $ for your spend. I'd probably value 60K UA (from the same 40K of spend on the club card) more than 120K + Diamond + 1 weekend night from Hilton, but its competitive, and its not a chase card.
Hyatt is no Forex, but its 1 pt per $. I'd rather have 1.5 UA, or a flexible 1 UR point from or CSP/Ink bold than a hyatt point.
Couldn't hurt to diversify, but United and Hyatt are UR's higher value redemptions, and in that instance 1.5>1.
But your best deal would be to use it to harvest a few bonuses. Is it invoiced once a year or several times a year? If so, on a rolling basis you could grab Ink Bold, spend 10K get the 50K bonus, then Ink Plus (rinse/repeat), etc.
Hyatt is no Forex, but its 1 pt per $. I'd rather have 1.5 UA, or a flexible 1 UR point from or CSP/Ink bold than a hyatt point.
When comparing these two options, it leads me to ask -- what is worth more? 1.5 United miles or 1 Chase UR point? My feeling is the 1.5 UA miles but I'm curious what you all think.
But your best deal would be to use it to harvest a few bonuses. Is it invoiced once a year or several times a year? If so, on a rolling basis you could grab Ink Bold, spend 10K get the 50K bonus, then Ink Plus (rinse/repeat), etc.
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The Chase BA card is an intriguing suggestion due to the companion award. However, if I understand correctly this is only valid on BA operated flights and so they will stick us with their ridiculously high fuel surcharges not once but twice. If this was valid on partner awards I'd be very interested, but I don't believe this is the case.
Any other suggestions out there?
Any other suggestions out there?


